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I think some of the Steppe went into Karluk for the Azerbaijanis. No way Fars is more Steppe than Northern AZ.Originally Posted by Kyp
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It's very clear to me after looking at multiple Fars province and Kurdish results. As you can see Fars province is not gold standard of the average South Iranian as it has recent nomadic turkic and arab input (supported by Autosomal results). It looks like recent Iranian history is not your expertise.
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It's very clear to me after looking at multiple Fars province and Kurdish results. As you can see Fars province is not gold standard of the average South Iranian as it has recent nomadic turkic and arab input (supported by Autosomal results). It looks like recent Iranian history is not your expertise.
YOU KEEP SKIPPING OVER PARAGRAPHS 1-5. YOU CAN'T USE ARSALANTEPE-EBA AND IRAN-CHL IN THE SAME RUN FOR THE REASONS BELOW
AND YOU CAN'T SPECULATE ABOUT ANCIENT E ASIAN OR IRON AGE INPUT INTO KURDS VS OTHER IRANIANS BASED ON GEDMATCH OR G25. YOU MUST USE QPADM
This is a big reason I don't like G25 because putting these types of tools which themselves are shaky to start out with and in the hands of amateurs makes for a dangerous combination and readers are misled by the results. Not to mention the G25 has no way to validate results. There's no p-values and standard errors to let users know which models are overfitted or invalid.
1- You can't use Arsalantepe-EBA and Iran-Chl in the same run. Overfitting problem. If you ever try it with qpAdm you'll have huge standard errors. Anatolia-EBA and Anatolia-Chl were discussed in Damgaard 2018 and Lazaridis 2017. Anatolia-EBA and Iran-Chl are clearly too intertwined with each other to be used in the same run.
From Supplementary Information "The genetic structure of the world’s first farmers", Lazaridis 2017
We first model Anatolia_ChL as a mix of Anatolia_N and a population A (Table S7.17). Only
populations from Iran and Armenia work as sources of the input into Anatolia. This input is quantified as at least 32.9±7.9% when Iran_ChL is used as a source population A.
Iran-Chl is modeled in Lazaridis as 54% Anatolia-Chl + 46% Iran-N
Damgaard 2018 "The First Horse Herders and the Impact of Early Bronze Age Steppe Expansions into Asia" in one of their figures shows Anatolia-EBA and Anatolia-Chl as having about the same ancestry proportions.
So obviously the Kurdish results posted don't make sense and those KAZ-Karluk results are garbage. No way South Iranians (Fars) have more E Asian than Kurds. Even a quick glance at the qpWave table below will tell you that.
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What if we don't care or don't want that shit? I for one can barely understand that "science". We're here for Gedmatch and G25. I think you should leave this forum.
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I've said this before if you don't care about accuracy or real scientific analysis or want to stay in the dark then speak for yourself. I'm 100% sure that unlike you most people who aren't trolls or immature do care about accuracy, the truth and scientific analysis and do appreciate the tips I give and don't appreciate you speaking for them
And if you don't understand that science then the onus is on you to educate yourself
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DashtiKozi samples from Tajikistan. One of these guys is over 92% Sintashta, with only a 7.2 distance to Norwegians. Flipping crazy.
Target: TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA:I4258
Distance: 1.0305% / 0.01030529
91.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
6.0 TKM_Gonur1_BA
2.4 RUS_Tyumen_HG
Target: TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA:I4257
Distance: 1.1228% / 0.01122823
81.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
12.2 TKM_Gonur1_BA
6.4 RUS_Tyumen_HG
Target: TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA:I4160
Distance: 1.8932% / 0.01893183
73.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
19.0 TKM_Gonur1_BA
7.6 RUS_Tyumen_HG
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TJK is Tajikistan. Are they still purely Steppe? Dashtikozi is a village near the city of Panjakent, in Western Tajikistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjakent
Run them with KAZ_Mys and Kashkarchi please.
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Fuck my life, yes I meant to write Tajikistan. Im really tired. I even looked up the village right before posting this and Ive been familiar with this sample for al ong time.
Ok.
Target: UZB_Kashkarchi_BA:I4255
Distance: 1.5860% / 0.01586006
87.0 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
7.2 TKM_Gonur1_BA
5.8 RUS_Tyumen_HG
Target: UZB_Kashkarchi_BA:I4153
Distance: 1.8541% / 0.01854126
92.0 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
6.0 RUS_Tyumen_HG
2.0 TKM_Gonur1_BA
Target: KAZ_Mys_MLBA:I4783
Distance: 1.8398% / 0.01839828
83.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
8.8 RUS_Tyumen_HG
7.6 TKM_Gonur1_BA
Target: KAZ_Mys_MLBA:I4782
Distance: 1.8422% / 0.01842156
92.2 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
7.8 RUS_Tyumen_HG
Target: KAZ_Mys_MLBA:I4322
Distance: 1.5203% / 0.01520342
85.0 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
10.8 RUS_Tyumen_HG
4.2 TKM_Gonur1_BA
Target: KAZ_Mys_MLBA:I4321
Distance: 2.0332% / 0.02033227
77.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
12.0 RUS_Tyumen_HG
10.2 TKM_Gonur1_BA
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It is funny how he talks about expertise and then proceeds to link his amateur blog read by literally no one besides himself.
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