Romanians from Romania as we know them will be genetically replaced

[Ion Basescul]

In Romania the fusion is already happening. Some locals for example, on one of the Romanian forums, are asking each other if they can tell the difference between Indians vs Pakistanis or Chinese vs Vietnamese, implying that the visual differences between Romanians and Romas/Gypsies are as insignificant.

Google Translate this thread: https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/11...mi-de-straini/
I specifically referred to this comment of Romanians talking between themselves: https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/11...#entry24663624

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Crbl2001, on 11 May 2019 - 18:31, said: This thing has already started to annoy me. The Roma from Romania who go abroad only know how to steal and beg. I have nothing to do with those who are serious, but with the lichels. The problem is that foreigners call us "Roma" "just because the real Roma come from Romania. Why is this happening?

Do you distinguish between Pakistanis and Indians or do you put them all in the same pot? But between the Chinese and the Vietnamese? About the same with foreigners who confuse us with the Roma.
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https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/11...#entry24663988

# 42 doxan
Posted 11 May 2019 - 20:58

Let's be serious, in Oltenia a good part of the population is composed of mestizos between Romanians and Gypsies, as well as through Arges, Galati, Alba, Buzau, etc. I think that in a real way, at least a quarter of the current population in southern Romania has some Roma blood. (IonBasescul's note: Google Translate automatically translates "sange rromesc" or "Roma blood" to "Romanian blood" in English . Liarescu should better spend his time raising tickets to correct such mistakes.) That's right, we're all human beings after all, anyway ... those Muslim blacks who now come across the West are infinitely more problematic than the Roma, primarily because of the religious aspect and the fact that they are completely foreign elements, these Romas with their good and bad have been around the Middle Ages, we kind of know what they can do.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/11...#entry24942607

Giuliani
Posted 10 July 2019 - 15:39

Do you recognize the Roma in Andalusia on the street? Or the Rhaeto-Romanians in Switzerland? How do you distinguish a Sicilian from a Tuscan or a Bavarian from a Swabian? It's hard, isn't it? In the South of Romania or in Oltenia the skin of many people is darker in color, how do you distinguish people from each other?

[ixulescu]

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/11...#entry24663988

# 42 doxan
Posted 11 May 2019 - 20:58

Let's be serious, in Oltenia a good part of the population is composed of mestizos between Romanians and Gypsies, as well as through Arges, Galati, Alba, Buzau, etc. I think that in a real way, at least a quarter of the current population in southern Romania has some Roma blood. (IonBasescul's note: Google Translate automatically translates "sange rromesc" or "Roma blood" to "Romanian blood" in English . Liarescu should better spend his time correcting such mistakes, then measuring penises online.) That's right, we're all human beings after all, anyway ... those Muslim blacks who now come across the West are infinitely more problematic than the Roma, primarily because of the religious aspect and the fact that they are completely foreign elements, these Romas with their good and bad have been around the Middle Ages, we kind of know what they can do.

Quoting a shitpost is shitposting. You're only cementing your reputation.

[Ion Basescul]

Thread (from 2006) on same Romanian forum with the name "How many Romas do you think are in Romania?". It also has a poll.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/14...nt-in-romania/

[Ion Basescul]

Thread (from 2013) on the perception of which localities are predominantly Roma/Gypsy in their composition.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/92...ant-tiganesti/

[Jana]

That's incorrect. Even if we assimilate all gypsies we'll have less South Asian admixture than Russians who got a plenty from their steppe background. Think about that.

Are you joking?
Gypsies are 25% South Asian on average, ethnic Russians usually score none, only some northern Finnic shifted Russians score few percent.

Half Romanian half Gypsy would be more than 10% South Asian on average, ethnic Russians are usually 0-1%. Not to mention extra MENA admixture.
Such mix won't be white.

[Ion Basescul]

A nice wake up call for all the deluded people who think Balkanites are 'based' and that people here would never touch Gypsies and what not. The reality is that Serbs and others are much less racially aware than many westerners are.
All that being said, these kinds of families are way more common in Vojovdina, and to some extent the suburbs of Belgrade, than in other parts of the country.

TERRATEC
Posted 23 May 2013 - 07:38

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The gypsies declare themselves Romanians at the census, so the official statistics is equal to zero. Romanian villages become strongly gypsy because Romanians leave them. We will cry in a few years, when ethnologists will go to collect "Romanian" folklore. History will be rewritten and the gypsies will become the real Romanians.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/92...#entry13215282


ovidiu_ms
Posted 23 May 2013 - 00:16

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Fairy tales. Only I know about 4 within a radius of 50 km. And the part with statistics is equal to 0. For example, in the grandparents' village, when the survey was conducted, the person who did the survey was amazed that not even a gypsy became a gypsy. They all declared themselves Romanians and they are as black as coal.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/92...#entry13214936

[CommonSense]

I disagree with this completely.

First of all, not all gypsies acknowledge their identity because for most of them being gypsy is a social and not an ethnic identity. Gypsy is not an ethnicity, come on, this is basic stuff. When I look at groups of gypsy children in Romania they look literally like anything under the sun (except SSA).

We should allow gypsies the possibility to integrate and assimilate, in fact we should strongly encourage them to do so. It's great when gypsies adopt the identity and culture of the nation they live in - that's like: problem solved. Assimilated gypsies drift further and further from the gypsy community from all perspectives.

Also, the fabled, phenomenal gypsy birth rate that will displace all Balkanites seems like Covid panic. It's based on bullshit, only anecdotal evidence is offered. Statistics tell a different story, at least in Romania the demographic statistics completely contradict this narrative.

They are an ethnicity with endogamity rates reaching those of Ashkenazi Jews. In fact, they're mutually much more closer to each other than individual Romanians are. Mortimer closely matches Gypsies from all around the world despite not being actually related to any of them.
And their high birth rate is a widely known fact. The only reason they aren't like 20% of the Balkans east of the Drina river is their high emmigration rate. A hundred years ago mortality rates kept them in check, but that's no longer the case with the advance of healthcare.

That is not real life and their number is very small in comparation with whole Gypsy population. Vast majority of Gypsies in Serbia still live in own ghettos and get married in own community.

Mortimer had one Serbian paternal ancestor who married Gypsy woman. His son also married Gypsy woman from what I heard. His Serbian ancestor "strayed" among Gypsies.

It's not about Mortimer himself. A significant number of his relatives are mixed with Serbs and Hungarians. His own mother's ancestors lived in that ghetto and she still gets insulted if people call her Gypsy. And today the Gypsies living in actual ghettos are mostly those refugees from Kosovo, by far the poorest of the bunch.

[Jana]

NW Croatians are more tolerant towards the Gypsies than other Croatians. Because of that it's more easy for Gypsies to adopt Croatian identity im NW Croatia than in other parts.
In Međimurjr Gypsies survived WW2 due to Hungarian rule. In other parts of Croatia which were in NDH a lot of them were killed by ustashe in Jasenovac and other conc camps together with Serbs and Jews.
Gypsies in Rijeka are imigrants from some other regions outside of Croatia in Yugo period right?

Interesting fact is non-existence of Gypsies in Dalmatia in history. They never lived in Dalmatia.

Yes, Gypsies in Rijeka are mostly from Kosovo. In Dalmatia there are no Gypsies because locals are not tolerant so Gypsies are afraid to settle there.

[CommonSense]

Out of 29120 ethnic Serbian women who got married in 2018, it was 59 who marries with ethnic Roma men. Rate 0.2%
Out of 29235 ethnic Serbian men who got married in 2018, it was 53 who married with ethnic Roma women. Rate 0.18%

We already talked about how Romani people self-identify as Serbs, Romanians, etc. Some of those registered mixed couples could be actually monoracial and many of the registered Serbian couples biracial.

TERRATEC
Posted 23 May 2013 - 07:38

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The gypsies declare themselves Romanians at the census, so the official statistics is equal to zero. Romanian villages become strongly gypsy because Romanians leave them. We will cry in a few years, when ethnologists will go to collect "Romanian" folklore. History will be rewritten and the gypsies will become the real Romanians.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/92...#entry13215282


ovidiu_ms
Posted 23 May 2013 - 00:16

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Fairy tales. Only I know about 4 within a radius of 50 km. And the part with statistics is equal to 0. For example, in the grandparents' village, when the survey was conducted, the person who did the survey was amazed that not even a gypsy became a gypsy. They all declared themselves Romanians and they are as black as coal.

https://forum.softpedia.com/topic/92...#entry13214936

You don't even need to post forum discussions to know what's going on. The fact that an entire village of 1500 people where only Gypsies live has almost unanimously declared themselves as Romanian on the census speaks for it self. I'm talking about Glod, where parts of Borat were filmed in. You already made posts about that.

[ixulescu]

Are you joking?
Gypsies are 25% South Asian on average, ethnic Russians usually score none, only some northern Finnic shifted Russians score few percent.

Half Romanian half Gypsy would be more than 10% South Asian on average, ethnic Russians are usually 0-1%. Not to mention extra MENA admixture.
Such mix won't be white.

In the study I quoted the group marked as "Northern Russians" had something like 2 to 4% South Asian, and they were not gypsies because this percentage was uniform across all samples.

On the second point, the more gypsy women marry Balkanites the South Asian admixture diminishes in the overall population, because gypsy men won't be able to marry Balkanite women. In other words the emphasis should be on keeping gypsy women in school as long as possible, raising their living expectations, and the outcome will be that many will marry Balkanites instead of gypsies.

We also need to understand that the Balkans have a significant non-European population (close to 10%) that is not gypsy and well integrated socially. People have little problem intermarry with them, despite religious differences in some cases. We should do the same with gypsies - integrate then assimilate.