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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Nevertheless they were non European and ruled over native European peoples. Be proud of carrying that dirty vulgar name SlavoThracian.
    Proto bulghars were eurasian but it doesn't mean modern bulgarians like them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    Probably Proto Bulgars were like 30-40% east eurasian 60-70% west eurasian but i am not sure
    Studies show they were mainly Iranic and East Mediterranean with some Central Asian (mainly among nobility).
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    This is a pure trolling thread

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    Asian haplogroups make up 1% of Bulgaria so unlikely. They aren't even really different from their neighbors, just a higher number of E1b folks than Serbia etc.




    Region/Haplogroup I1 I2*/I2a I2b R1a R1b G J2 J*/J1 E1b1b T Q N

    Bulgaria 4 20 2 17 11 5 11 3 23.5 1.5 0.5 0.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hahns View Post
    This is a pure trolling thread
    As one could expect from FYROMers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Studies show they were mainly Iranic and East Mediterranean with some Central Asian (mainly among nobility).
    Could you link? I read we will know autosomal DNA of Bulgars next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Asian haplogroups make up 1% of Bulgaria so unlikely. They aren't even really different from their neighbors, just a higher number of E1b folks than Serbia etc.




    Region/Haplogroup I1 I2*/I2a I2b R1a R1b G J2 J*/J1 E1b1b T Q N

    Bulgaria 4 20 2 17 11 5 11 3 23.5 1.5 0.5 0.5
    Of course, you are largely correct.
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml
    Serbs have more I1 and I2/I2a, as well as a higher prevalence of Q and N and Bulgarians have more R1b and E1b1b but nothing drastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Could you link? I read we will know autosomal DNA of Bulgars next year
    https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90...B8%D1%82%D0%B5
    Do you speak Bulgarian? Link above has info about both their genetics and anthropological type. Mainly Iranic with Turan and Finno-Ugric influences according to data. I had read years ago that according to skeleton remains Bulgar warriors ranged from 175 to 197 cm. tall and even if those were picked among the physically stronger ones, it's still significantly higher than what a seriously Mongoloid admixed population would achieve in the medieval period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Asian haplogroups make up 1% of Bulgaria so unlikely. They aren't even really different from their neighbors, just a higher number of E1b folks than Serbia etc.




    Region/Haplogroup I1 I2*/I2a I2b R1a R1b G J2 J*/J1 E1b1b T Q N

    Bulgaria 4 20 2 17 11 5 11 3 23.5 1.5 0.5 0.5
    Bulgars were a relatively small ruling class over a much larger body of Slavs. They were eventually absorbed into the Slavic corpus with the Bulgarian name surviving. It would not make much sense if Bulgarians were Asiatic today, despite the Turkic origin of the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Asian haplogroups make up 1% of Bulgaria so unlikely. They aren't even really different from their neighbors, just a higher number of E1b folks than Serbia etc.




    Region/Haplogroup I1 I2*/I2a I2b R1a R1b G J2 J*/J1 E1b1b T Q N

    Bulgaria 4 20 2 17 11 5 11 3 23.5 1.5 0.5 0.5
    Also You can find R G and J among Turks you are wrong you should first look their autosomal dna and then look their haplogroups

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