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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Asian haplogroups make up 1% of Bulgaria so unlikely. They aren't even really different from their neighbors, just a higher number of E1b folks than Serbia etc.




    Region/Haplogroup I1 I2*/I2a I2b R1a R1b G J2 J*/J1 E1b1b T Q N

    Bulgaria 4 20 2 17 11 5 11 3 23.5 1.5 0.5 0.5
    And yet these SlavoThracians still name themselves after this chink tribe

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Studies show they were mainly Iranic and East Mediterranean with some Central Asian (mainly among nobility).
    Kazan tatars and bashkirs closest ethnics to proto Bulgarians i dont think proto bulgarians were iranic

    But Only some Danube Bulgarian nobles are descendants of Turkics others were just native Thracians, slavs so Modern bulgarians are slavs and Thracians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    Also You can find R G and J among Turks you are wrong you should first look their autosomal dna and then look their haplogroups
    J and G isn't Mongoloid and Turkish people aren't real Turks. Also R is Central Asian and highly Iranicized, Pre-Mongol Invasion central Asians had pretty much zero in common with Mongols and Chinese Turks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    And yet these SlavoThracians still name themselves after this chink tribe
    The Bulgars like most Asiatic people in the west though probably were a majority natives even in the ruling class like the Huns and Magyars etc. Turkish people call themselves Turks but they are just Middle Eastern and European.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    Kazan tatars and bashkirs closest ethnics to proto Bulgarians i dont think proto bulgarians were iranic

    But Only some Danube Bulgarian nobles are descendants of Turkics others were just native Thracians, slavs so Modern bulgarians are slavs and Thracians
    Isn't it true, that Bulgar component is the highest in northeast Bulgarian region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    J and G isn't Mongoloid and Turkish people aren't real Turks. Also R is Central Asian and highly Iranicized, Pre-Mongol Invasion central Asians had pretty much zero in common with Mongols and Chinese Turks.
    Lol there werent any 100% mongoloid turk we are in 2020 A.D but some people think still like that




    Mongols and chinese Turks lol

    Turkish people are 30-50% uzbekistani Turkmens and uzbekistan turkmens are more mongoloid than Turkmenistani you dont know anything about Turks paleo european nigga
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    If we assume that the proto-Bulgarians are predominantly East Asian, then Q and N in today's Serbs can only be due to Avar or Bulgarian or Hungarian origin, because these were lands of the Avars, and after the defeat of the Avars were for several centuries Bulgarian and Hungarian. But just as the studies of the Khazars show great mixing, so the Proto-Bulgarians were mixed in the lands of the northern Black Sea coast and the North Caucasus and the Caspian Sea, where they are noted to have lived in the 4th century by the ancient Armenian chroniclers. The primary mixing took place there - Turks and Iranians, and by the 5th-6th century mixing with some eastern Slavic groups probably began to some extent. This was inevitable because they inhabited the steppes of today's southern Russia and Ukraine.
    The fact that they were a genetically mixed people is hardly doubted, but the big question is which was the primary component - the Iranian or the Turkic. Because the Bulgarians in this region are talked about before the Turks reach so far west and the West Turkic Khaganate is formed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    J and G isn't Mongoloid and Turkish people aren't real Turks. Also R is Central Asian and highly Iranicized, Pre-Mongol Invasion central Asians had pretty much zero in common with Mongols and Chinese Turks.
    You cant say Iranic or Turkic to haplogroups
    R wasnt iranic or turkic R was just steppe herder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Isn't it true, that Bulgar component is the highest in northeast Bulgarian region?
    Maybe, I dont know northeastern bulgarians

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