Origin of R-M198->R-FGC10641?

[Leto]

Not my Y DNA. Does anyone know it?

[Kyp]

Ashkenazi? No idea about the origin though.

[Leto]

Any more thoughts?

[Mejgusu]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5668307/

But i cannot say how trustable this information is.

[Leto]

Yes, that person is Jewish. Good study by the way

Accordingly, all R1a-Y2619 individuals, whether self-affiliating as Jews or non-Jews, whether Ashkenazi or non-Ashkenazi, whether Levites or non-Levites, are the direct male descendants of the paternal line of one common male ancestor who lived ~1,743 ybp (Table 1). As contemporary males from all branches of R1a-Y2619 sampled so far carry one of the many Levites surnames, it can be strongly argued that this male ancestor self-affiliated as a Levite and may have carried the patronymic surname Levite.
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Two independent sample sets of Ashkenazi Jews in which the Levite status was unknown have similarly estimated the percentage of the R1a-Y2619 paternal haplogroup, R1a-M17/M198, in the Ashkenazi population at 9.6%20 and 11.5%, respectively27. The former paper reported that haplogroup R1a-M582 accounted for 7.9% of the total Ashkenazi population20. Here, we show that all Ashkenazi samples belonging to haplogroup R1a-M582 can be reclassified as R1a-Y2619. Based upon an Ashkenazi population size of ~4,000,00013 males, of whom about 7.9% are R1a-Y2619, there would be ~300,000 Ashkenazi males descending on their direct male line from a single relatively recent ancestor, with many of those men self-affiliating as Levite.

So the Levites turn out to be of Aryan descent. I guess fucking Hitler is crying in hell

[Leto]

On a more serious note I do wonder how an Indo-European could possibly have founded the Levite lineage and whether it was present in Biblical Israel.

I can post autosomal results of that man.

[Arhat]

Not my Y DNA. Does anyone know it?

The clade itself is specific for Jews but the ancestor of it is either from Mitanni Indo-Aryans or from West Iranics. The closest subclades outside of Jews and Palestinians were found in NW Iran so it likely came from Iran. It is typical for Levites who have more Aryan R1a-Z93 than Iranians and Kurds (50%). This was caused by some kind of founder effect

[Arhat]

On a more serious note I do wonder how an Indo-European could possibly have founded the Levite lineage and whether it was present in Biblical Israel.

I can post autosomal results of that man.

There is R1a in BA Megiddo (Israel) and he has steppe admix. So R1a arrived in Israel already in 1500 B.C but obviously was for the most time a very rare lineage.

[Ion Basescul]

Not my Y DNA. Does anyone know it?

R-CTS6 upstream looks Iranic, so ultimately this is an Iranic lineage, but FGC10641 specifically looks connected to the area between Ukraine and Poland mostly.

[Shubotai]

R1a-Z93->Z2124->Z2122->CTS6->Y2619->FGC10641

Haplogroup Z2122 is connected with the Zazaki language, a western Iranic language east of Cappadocia, which is different than Kurdish. The Georgians and Jewish that belong to this subclade including Benjamin Netanyahu's brother are therefore of western Iranic origin. In my opinion it may be related to Cimmerians an ancient Indo-germanic group that moved around a lot in the Middle East, Caucasus and the Pontic steppes.