The Dutch Don’t Love Europe—and Never Did

[Insuperable]

The 26 billion is just us. That's just our contribution. Plus we have to underwrite everyone else. You know what's also funny: currently the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany are facing a covid nightmare. Where is that European solidarity now ? Exactly.

I know that is just you. And what is exactly what I said?

[The Lawspeaker]

I know that is just you. And what is exactly what I said?

Rutte signed over another billion without consulting the people just yesterday. Meanwhile, we are in lockdown and the hospitals close to collapse. Where is our assistance ?

[Antudo]

Says Knot. A political appointee who would be out of a job without the Euro, And the transfers aren't small. The last transfer alone was 26 billion euro. More than the whole cost of a Nexit. Coupled with that are the annual costs of almost 500 euro per head. We don't need the Euro. Just the Common Market, and we can get that without either the Eurozone or the EU.

Still those transfers are small in comparison to the benefits you get from the competitivity you have reached on the Common Market, achieved adopting a weaker currency and by the absence of an exchange rate among european currencies. Italy is also an important net contributor to the EU budget while being damanged by the euro.

[The Lawspeaker]

Still those transfers are small in comparison to the benefits you get from the competitivity you have reached on the Common Market, achieved adopting a weaker currency and by the absence of an exchange rate among european currencies. Italy is also an important net contributor to the EU budget while being damanged by the euro.

We can still enjoy exactly the same benefits outside the EU without being leached dry by the South.

[The Blade]

There are good reasons for Euroscepticism in many states.
Anyway, I salute Dutch youth for pedophile hunting they organize.
When police methods aren't enough you have to do something like this.
Gained my respect on this level, too.

[Davystayn]

North Sea alliance yes

[The Lawspeaker]

North Sea alliance yes

EFTA.

[-Scar-]

The European Union will collapse like the USSR.

The European Union was a project of crazy Kabbalist mathematicians (as a first step towards the implementation of a New World Order and its world government). Take geography as an image: there are countries with mountains higher than 4000 meters, and other areas below the sea level; and force them to be all at the same level in less than 25 years... like in the Kabbalah where the real world is replaced by abstraction: words and numbers. An Euclidian plan where every elements are isomorphs.

It's economically crazy to put together countries with widely different economic productivity, growth, unemployment, current balances, tax policies, and most importantly, cultures and no common feeling of belonging to the same Nation.

Because there is no unified European identity (as much as there is no African identity or Asian identity). There irony of history is that you can find Europeans only in North America.

To me, only the Nation-State is the right balance between tiny atomized regions that lacks the scale to be sovereign and the global neo-empires that inherently cannot aggregate wide differences between people

The Nation-State offers a sufficient level of homogeneity (cultural, self-identification, common history, common economic levels) and critical mass, economies of scale that can allow a "real" democracy (not the current mascarade known as liberal representative democracy) to flourish.

It is a dialectical evolution, since the Nation-State, in its inception, was a indeed product of Capitalism, it has now become a force of resistance against the modern form of Capitalism; the Globalized Financialized Capitalism (under control of the Chosen People' community and their (para-)Masonic friends) which aims to create big blocks in order to build the NWO.

You are such a try-hard, man.

[-Scar-]

No, we were tricked. By Germany's forced competitiveness in the single market first of all, and second of all the governments, which from the 80s onwards were taking massive loans without the people knowing in the first place and with the European Commission knowing it is going to basically economically enslave us. So, the European officials knew. And our governments. But they kept going.

So, it's not the people's fault at all. I mean, when the governments lie behind your back for decades and they cooperate with EU authorities, they have no responsibility. And yes, the Germans are mostly to blame. Insuperable shared an article, from Deutsche Welle, explaining in full detail how Germany profited, basically like a Jewish banker, from the crisis.

When I said you I meant Greece's goverment.
Greece falsified data:
https://www.ft.com/content/33b0a48c-...3-00144feabdc0

Nobody forced Greece to falsify data and spend money like there is no tomorrow. And Germany is not Greece's mommy to control how much loans Greece should take.

Pay your debt and then leave!

[catgeorge]

When I said you I meant Greece's goverment.
Greece falsified data:
https://www.ft.com/content/33b0a48c-...3-00144feabdc0

Nobody forced Greece to falsify data and spend money like there is no tomorrow. And Germany is not Greece's mommy to control how much loans Greece should take.

Pay your debt and then leave!

Same can be said no one forced banks to purchase Greek debt. If you make a poor investment decision you pay for it.