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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaland View Post
    The Book of Obadiah makes no mention of Babylon; instead, it relates the final judgment of the House of Esau. It is only 21 verses long, and it can be read in one sitting.

    Book of Obadiah, King James Version
    You might want to look into the House of Esau a little more.

    Esau was also known as Edom, the progenitor of the Edomites who were established to the south of the Israelites. They were an enemy nation of Israel.[25] The minor prophets, such as Obadiah, claim that the Edomites participated in the destruction of the First Temple by Nebuchadnezzar in 587 BC. Exactly how the Edomites participated is not clear. Psalm 137 ("By the waters of Babylon") suggests merely that Edom had encouraged the Babylonians: The Lord is asked to "remember against the Edomites the day of Jerusalem, how they said 'raze it, raze it to its foundations'".[26] But the prophecy of Obadiah insists on the literal "violence done" by Esau "unto your brother Jacob" when the Edomites "entered the gate of my people..., looted his goods..., stood at the parting of the ways to cut off the fugitive,... delivered up his survivors on his day of distress".[27]

    By the intertestamental period, Edom had replaced Babylon as the nation that actually burned the Temple. Esau is Babylon.
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    Babylon is a nation of mixed(mingled) people. Economic collapse coming as well as war.

    Jeremiah 50:37
    A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    I believe it is.

    No other nation fits the description. Mount up to heaven=space force.
    The Babylon the Great is a city. The Great City. The angel clearly explained it, and
    there is no need for changing his explanation. And there is only the one city in the
    whole world, which fits perfectly to verbaly every single condition described in the
    Revelation. Conditions are not only two or three - how like to put it supporters of
    many different more or less senseable theories - but they are dozens.

    All incorrect theories fall on some condition. The theory "America" is falling on many.
    Firstly it is not a city, neither the city. But more important is, that US didn't exist in
    the first century, neither earlier, so couldn't ride the five previous kings, neither the
    sixth, the actual one in the time when the Revelation was revealed. Case closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    The Babylon the Great is a city. The Great City. The angel clearly explained it, and
    there is no need for changing his explanation. And there is only the one city in the
    whole world, which fits perfectly to verbaly every single condition described in the
    Revelation. Conditions are not only two or three - how like to put it supporters of
    many different more or less senseable theories - but they are dozens.

    All incorrect theories fall on some condition. The theory "America" is falling on many.
    Firstly it is not a city, neither the city. But more important is, that US didn't exist in
    the first century, neither earlier, so couldn't ride the five previous kings, neither the
    sixth, the actual one in the time when the Revelation was revealed. Case closed.
    The prophets did not know what they were seeing. Nobody else fits the description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    The great thing about the Bible is you can find verses to interpret however you like and so hence all the crazy fringe cults we've seen over the years.
    Yea black people think they have proof Jesus was black lmao. Anyone can pull anything out of there ass and make it stick.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Yea black people think they have proof Jesus was black lmao. Anyone can pull anything out of there ass and make it stick.
    It seems that way but not if you have a understanding of dispensationalism. I see right through the garbage you have cited. Those people lack discernment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    Babylon is a nation of mixed(mingled) people. Economic collapse coming as well as war.

    Jeremiah 50:37
    A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed.
    You are reading a translation, not from the actual Hebrew text which would require a scholarly narration to ensure the proper contexts.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    USA is the only nation that fits the description that deals with Hurricanes in the manner which it does. This fall was brutal.


    Jeremiah 51:42
    The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.

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    Babylon will lose it's economic power that the other nations fed off of.

    Revelation 18:23, KJV: "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    It seems that way but not if you have a understanding of dispensationalism. I see right through the garbage you have cited. Those people lack discernment.
    What are you blathering about, America for one isn't any more mingled than Europe especially more than Slavs who are nothing but mingled; you guys are a mix of everything. Your name is Slavic Italian. Most white Americans are British and German which British people already are. America is one of the staunchest Christian countries especially for non-Catholic's. If it wasn't for America we would all be Russian or Chinese controlled atheists. Like I said too you don't speak Aramaic or Hebrew, you aren't a biblical scholar.

    You are just using the bible to justify your frustration and hatred. Babylon is in your heart.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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