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    My cousin told me that Ancestry can go back one thousand years (MyHeritage goes back 5-7 generations). Is that true?
    If yes, can they predict Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Alans, Langobards and Alamans DNA percentages?
    GEDmatch has a calculator for ancient DNA percentages.

    Attachment 104895 (My results)

    Is it accurate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafael Passoni View Post
    My cousin told me that Ancestry can go back one thousand years (MyHeritage goes back 5-7 generations). Is that true?
    If yes, can they predict Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Alans, Langobards and Alamans DNA percentages?
    GEDmatch has a calculator for ancient DNA percentages.

    Attachment 104895 (My results)

    Is it acurate?
    No. No modern dna test can go back 1,000 years. They only say they can go back 6 generations. Their panels are made up of people now who have long term ancestry in a population. They aren't using any ancient genomes to compare you against but people now.

    Most of these tests are a bit hit and miss due to population crossover and also not having a specific panel. If you look at Bretons for example they get split between British & Irish, French & German and Iberian. Yet they are unique in France so they end up with a split between these different groups.

    I would love if they did have a test that goes back 1,000 years. The best we have at the moment is G25 and some Gedmatch that have ancient populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    No. No modern dna test can go back 1,000 years. They only say they can go back 6 generations. Their panels are made up of people now who have long term ancestry in a population. They aren't using any ancient genomes to compare you against but people now.

    Most of these tests are a bit hit and miss due to population crossover and also not having a specific panel. If you look at Bretons for example they get split between British & Irish, French & German and Iberian. Yet they are unique in France so they end up with a split between these different groups.

    I would love if they did have a test that goes back 1,000 years. The best we have at the moment is G25 and some Gedmatch that have ancient populations.
    True, even 1000 years is in most cases only statistics and timings in the time frame between 500-1000 years are uncertain due to genetic drift. This is the situation with IBD and autosomal haplotypes. Allele distribution can reach of course thousands years serving history research, but in respect of genetic genealogy and plausible ancestry the maximun is 500-1000 years and over 500 years is more statistic based on averages.

    My True Ancestry uses IBD's or autosomal haplotypes assuming that known "cold regions" reveale older ancestry. Yes it can do that, but there is no quarantee of timings and they don't even try yo do it, they only tell that this and that sequence block is mutual between you and ancient remains.

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    In Italy there are some families ( rich family) that can trace their ancestry till ancient roman period.
    These people can say that their ancestors were noble before any other people in Europa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    In Italy there are some families ( rich family) that can trace their ancestry till ancient roman period.
    These people can say that their ancestors were noble before any other people in Europa.
    I can reach the late Viking Age and of course Charlemagne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    I can reach the late Viking Age and of course Charlemagne
    I can trace my Venetians ancestors till XVI century.. ( Church documents in Venice )

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    I can trace my Venetians ancestors till XVI century.. ( Church documents in Venice )
    My Finnish ancestry is proven by paper documents to 1540, so we can say that the birth of my earliest Finnish ancestor was somewhat earlier. All older ancestry is based on noble connection. Finland from the beginning of the Swedish era had not slavery or serfdom and the class rotation was stronger than in East or Central Europe, thus most Finns have noble connection they don't know or don't want to speak about. Genealogists know this.

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