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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianV View Post
    Not even hiding their plans

    Viewers slammed the display as 'ridiculous' after the drones made the shape of a BLM fist and a turtle with Africa on its shell (pictured) - alongside the NHS logo and a depiction Captain Sir Tom Moore in the sky

    London's light and firework show also featured a reference to online video calls which became a popular option for the swathes of Britons working from home in lockdown
    It is like the elite, which is mainly liberal, identity politics etc are deliberately trolling their own population. Sadiq Khan is the worst

    Must say I laughed out loud with bobbing blm fists, can't escape the woke these days.

    Could the Netherlands strengthen ties with former colonies, Dutch empire was as widespread as the UK one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    It is like the elite, which is mainly liberal, identity politics etc are deliberately trolling their own population. Sadiq Khan is the worst

    Must say I laughed out loud with bobbing blm fists, can't escape the woke these days.

    Could the Netherlands strengthen ties with former colonies, Dutch empire was as widespread as the UK one
    I like the idea. Basically a Canzuk without immigration, but they are already here so that doesn't matter. We already have the Dutch Language Union, so we might just as well work from there. Here in Europe, we also have the Benelux.



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    Yes NL should build on it, canzuk is quite deep rooted, people almost know the links are there without thinking preferential 2 yr visas for young people, international study, Netherlands should too yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    Yes NL should build on it, canzuk is quite deep rooted, people almost know the links are there without thinking preferential 2 yr visas for young people, international study, Netherlands should too yes
    Some people may say that they (Suriname, the Burghers of Ceylon and the Antilles) are not the same race, but we're united by our customs, our language and our history. The people have Dutch family names and there are strong ties. The Flemish and Afrikaners are even full kin by blood. We might just as well use this to benefit all involved. We share our pragmatic liberalism - even in our conservatism. Perhaps, in that respect, we share more with the British, than with Europe, so all-in-all our future does not lie in Europe with its wild moves between socialism and fascism and our ancestors knew it: until 1940, we happily ignored Europe until Europe came to us.
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    Sanctimonious grandstanding and delusional self-righteous "struggle" against imaginary oppression is the new black.
    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    It is very difficult for people to appreciate the size and varierty between areas in the US, the media don't make this clear though.

    Countries on this side of the pond are almost jealous of societal issues and tensions that exist in some cities in the US, so seek to emulate the culture by protesting against blocks of stone and various other convenient symbols

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Some people may say that they (Suriname, the Burghers of Ceylon and the Antilles) are not the same race, but we're united by our customs, our language and our history. The people have Dutch family names and there are strong ties. The Flemish and Afrikaners are even full kin by blood. We might just as well use this to benefit all involved. We share our pragmatic liberalism - even in our conservatism. Perhaps, in that respect, we share more with the British, than with Europe, so all-in-all our future does not lie in Europe with its wild moves between socialism and fascism and our ancestors knew it: until 1940, we happily ignored Europe until Europe came to us.
    Yes totally right,

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    Could this be a first step ?

    Dutch Ruling Party Wants a “Mini-Schengen Within Schengen” for Closing Borders to Migrants

    November 26, 2020

    Netherland’s People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), the largest party in the country, wants to create a mini-Schengen withing the existing Schengen Area that consist of 26 countries.

    The VVD wants this smaller Schengen to be able to close its borders to the other Schengen Zone countries, when the number of migrants passing through them to reach the Netherlands increases, in a bid of the ruling party to keep out migrants with no rights to asylum who see the country as a destination because of its prosperity.

    The idea has been presented by Bente Becker, the party’s parliamentary spokeswoman on immigration and asylum, in an opinion piece in the AD newspaper.

    According to Becker, while Greece and Italy are ‘overrun by boat migrants’, there is a great risk that in times of crisis the Netherlands will be chosen by many migrants as a destination because of its prosperity.

    A new European asylum system is needed, but strengthening the borders together has so far only succeeded in crisis situations,” Becker writes, asserting that the EU Commission’s recently presented new plan on migration is “not strict enough yet.”

    Becker further outlines VVD’s idea for a national crisis plan for migration, which is the creation of a mini-Schengen, which would allow the Netherlands and its partners to close their new ‘external borders’ when necessary.

    The VVD also wants the Netherlands to be able to close its national borders and impose border controls whenever the government sees it as necessary, while also suggesting adjustments and exceptions in international treaties and EU regulations if an improved European asylum system does not work.

    That is a more realistic answer to the migration problem than easy ‘nexit!’ as some do… We can work towards a stricter European asylum system and at the same time make a plan to better protect ourselves in times of crisis,” Becker asserts.


    Niet opnieuw een migratiecrisis. Wél een strenger en rechtvaardiger asielbeleid.
    Tweede Kamerlid @bentebecker over haar plan voor een 'mini-Schengen' om onze eigen grenzen nog beter te controleren. pic.twitter.com/bUSJQvVf8x
    — VVD (@VVD) November 25, 2020

    The reformation of the Schengen Area has been previously suggested by several EU leaders including the French President Emmanuel Macron, who after the terrorist attacks that took place in France called for the reorganization of the way Schengen works.

    His calls have been supported by the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who in a meeting of the European leaders highlighted the need to urgently reform the Schengen Area in the light of the recent terrorist attacks, adding the EU has long been working on this direction.



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