Spain, Portugal (Iberia) have Roman Italian DNA Video

[Hamilcar]

It is what it is. What people are discussing here are the claims of 20 or 30% Roman ancestry based on speculative models which don't correlate with Y-DNA for example.

In my personal opinion i'm more fond of pre-roman people than i am of the subsequent invaders that came later (romans, barbarians and moors). And i think that's the general feeling here, which is why Viriato, the Lusitanian leader, has statues in Spain and Portugal. In Portugal people aren't knowledgeable of roman generals, visigoth or suebi kings or moorish kings. I personally don't know their names either.

In the particular case of romans, while their cultural legacy here is undeniable it's also a fact that their legions killed and enslaved people here, including backstabbing after making peace treaties.

It's not a valid argument to deny scientific conclusions, you did this not only with romans but also with moors. It is what it is, your people absorbed lots of foreign admixture throughout its history and studies confirm this.

[Damião de Góis]

It's not a valid argument to deny scientific conclusions, you did this not only with romans but also with moors. It is what it is, your people absorbed lots of foreign admixture throughout its history and studies confirm this.

I appreciate the interest shown in the genetic composition of foreign people, but at this moment all the models include iron age basques from the northeast of the peninsula. When we have proper samples we will see who scores what. Until then people are using speculative models like i said, unless they want to model northeast iberians, in their case i think they have every sample avaliable for a decent model.

[Cristiano viejo]

not that surprise taking into consideration it's the only region of the empire which still speak latin derivated languages, I wonder about Romania tho

Dont forget France, Belgium, Luxembourg or Switzerland and in aany case language does not mean anything. Currently Basques speak a Latin-derived language, yet they were barely romanized and this includes genetically.

It's not a valid argument to deny scientific conclusions, you did this not only with romans but also with moors. It is what it is, your people absorbed lots of foreign admixture throughout its history and studies confirm this.

Just like every country of the world.
You wish we had more moronegro of your kind.

[Jana]

Yes they did (around 20-25% of the modern iberian genome) which is surprising because we don't see such impact in other regions of the empire

Not suprising, because it seems Balkans received tons of Imperial Roman like admixture as well. You can't label Balkanites as Slavic + native, they need late Romans for a good model.
Romance languages did not spread out of thin air. And I think France has significant Roman input as well.

[Dick]

Not suprising, because it seems Balkans received tons of Imperial Roman like admixture as well. You can't label Balkanites as Slavic + native, they need late Romans for a good model.
Romance languages did not spread out of thin air. And I think France has significant Roman input as well.

Looks like it indeed. Viminacium was a big Roman settlement, unfortunately the dna from there is taking too long to come out.