Genetic studies, social structure, and some inconsistencies

[JamesBond007]

Before I began to read about genetic studies about Turkish people, I used to think that the researchers were picking samples from all inhabitants of Turkey randomly, without considering those people’s immigration background. However, I guess my assumption was not true at all. The researchers only picked certain samples. There are lots of people in Turkey who identify as Turkish and of Arabian, Bosnian, Kurdish, Circassian descent. According to genetic researchers, those people are neither Anatolian nor Turkish, although they are both Turkish and Anatolian. Despite the fact that genetics is a very specialised topic, I don’t find is correct that the researchers excluded Turkish people who have different immigration backgrounds. Turkish people of different immigration backgrounds are also Turkish, Anatolian, part of Turkish society, if they identify as such.

Do you also think that genetic studies should be consistent with the social structure of the country whose people are being studied?

No, that is stupid you are talking more about politically correct Sociology have primacy over the natural sciences. You want to know the truth ? It goes like this as ranking :

1.) physics (all true sciences have to obey the laws of physics)

2.)other natural sciences such as biology and chemistry and genetics falls under biology etc...

Bottom of the of the rung : sociology, psychology etc....

You obviously don't understand science

[princeton90]

Who are the best representatives of an ethnic group?

The ones who have the least foreign admixture.

[Leto]

Well, it should be a no-brainer that testing a bunch of immigrants or minorities in a certain country is a not good idea when you need an accurate picture of the country's main or indigenous or traditional (whatever you call it) ethnic group. It doesn't really matter where one was born and what kind of nationality they have.

[reboun]

No, that is stupid you are talking more about politically correct Sociology have primacy over the natural sciences.

I never claimed such thing.

[reboun]

Well, it should be a no-brainer that testing a bunch of immigrants or minorities in a certain country is a not good idea when you need an accurate picture of the country's main or indigenous or traditional (whatever you call it) ethnic group. It doesn't really matter where one was born and what kind of nationality they have.

There are lots of Turkish people who have different immigration and ancestral backgrounds. In my opinion, it wouldn't be correct to exclude their results.

[Mejgusu]

What you said isn’t relevant at all. I don’t say genetic should investigate social structure but say that genetic researchers should pick samples randomly.

Your approach is not scientific, genetics are not social sciences.

There are lots of Turkish people who have different immigration and ancestral backgrounds. In my opinion, it wouldn't be correct to exclude their results.

What? I really dont understand your problem and it becomes ridiculous. If we talk about ethnic Turkish genetics it wouldnt make sense to include non-Turkish samples into any research. We already differentiate between Balkan, Anatolian, Iranian etc. Turks regarding genetics, if we would count for example a Turkish citizen with Assyrian or Albanian origin as Turk that would enormously distort works about this topic.

Genetics are a part of biology, your thoughts dont make sense here. Politically, socially and nationalistically there are no any difference between all Turks, regardless your ancestry and yes even as someone with non-Turkish origin. Connecting this with genetics is racism.

[reboun]

Edited.

[Mejgusu]

I am not a racist person. I couldn't understand what made you think that way.

I did not say YOU are racist, i said that connecting social sciences with genetics is racism.

[reboun]

I did not say YOU are racist, i said that connecting social sciences with genetics is racism.

Oh, I am sorry.

[reboun]

No, that is stupid you are talking more about politically correct Sociology have primacy over the natural sciences. You want to know the truth ? It goes like this as ranking :

1.) physics (all true sciences have to obey the laws of physics)

2.)other natural sciences such as biology and chemistry and genetics falls under biology etc...

Bottom of the of the rung : sociology, psychology etc....

You obviously don't understand science

I understand science but seems like ancestral genetics is not my cup of tea.