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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Mixing with non-Jews is extremely taboo, but, the Muslims, and especially Christians, are even more opposed.

    There are some exceptions ofc, but this will not change. The government opposes it too.
    I doubt in the long run that in a post-modern, secularized/irreligious, pro-globalization and diversity, populations living side by side will maintain a form of sexual segregation. Only among religious groups from both sides, a resistance against mixing will stay, otherwise there are no reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Good

    But last taboo, is still mixing with Aravim (it is certainly on both sides, mutual opposition to mixing) ?

    Do you believe in the next 30 years, this taboo will be removed or will remain ?
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    Should answer your question. Lefties will not comment negatively on an individual basis, but would be troubled if it became a phenomenon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    I doubt in the long run that in a post-modern, secularized/irreligious, pro-globalization and diversity, populations living side by side will maintain a form of sexual segregation. Only among religious groups from both sides, a resistance against mixing will stay, otherwise there are no reasons.
    Yes yes one day we will all be one giant caramel race, but it won't happen in 30 years, not in Israel.

    I mean, they will be caramel, but not Muslim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yes yes one day we will all be one giant caramel race, but it won't happen in 30 years, not in Israel.

    I mean, they will be caramel, but not Muslim.
    Indeed, Islam will collapse as a massive societal phenomenon in the Arab world, like Christianity, it's a matter of 3 generations max (75-100 years). There will be like among Jews, a core group of 10% that are, dialectically (as a reaction of massive secularization), very "orthodox" and "religious". The remaining population will be only "cultural", in the Christian sense (some small practices), or even outspoken atheist-agnostics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaskil View Post
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish...ns-from-right/

    Should answer your question. Lefties will not comment negatively on an individual basis, but would be troubled if it became a phenomenon.
    It's one of the multiple internal contradictions of being a "Jewish, but yet democratic society" (the political motto of Israel)..., but that's another issue, outside the scope of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Indeed, Islam will collapse as a massive societal phenomenon in the Arab world, like Christianity, it's a matter of 3 generations max (75-100 years). There will be like among Jews, a core group of 10% that are, dialectically (as a reaction of massive secularization), very "orthodox" and "religious". The remaining population will be only "cultural", in the Christian sense (some small practices), or even outspoken atheist-agnostics.
    I hope you're right, but I see a rightward shift in this generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    I hope you're right, but I see a rightward shift in this generation.
    It's more an identity politics issue (contrasting oneself against the White Western hegemonic culture) than a spiritual awakening, generally speaking.
    But on the same time, they are completely immersed into the Western modernity (higher level of education, individualism, urbanization, technological progress - smartphones, social networks, computers, Internet, cars, fashion clothing), I doubt it would survive even more than 1 generation for those born and raised in the West.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    More interesting to me is the % of black (Ethiopian) jews who intermarry. Any numbers?
    12% as of 2016. 8% of men and 15% of women marry out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Mixing with non-Jews is extremely taboo, but, the Muslims, and especially Christians, are even more opposed.

    There are some exceptions ofc, but this will not change. The government opposes it too.
    It's funny because I've been to Israel only once, on holiday, and I've met in Akko a guy whose father was Muslim and whose mother was Jewish. But I'm aware it's an exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skjaldemjøden View Post
    12% as of 2016. 8% of men and 15% of women marry out.
    Thanks a lot.

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