Are Bosnians the descendants of the Pechenegs?

[pourple2q]

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...ateline_En.htm
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...ateline_En.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pechenegs

They disappear from history, exactly when the Bosnians appear.
They did not all die in the genocide, but many were assimilated.
Pecenek could have founded Bosnia. But being a small population, it was very quickly absorbed by the Slavs.
Pecenek allegedly liberated the native population of Bosnia from Greek rule.
Although Pecenek no longer exists (Bosnia being Slavic) it is possible that some Bosniaks contain a lot of Pecheneg blood.
Many Bosnians have Turkish / Central Asian eyes. As well as an aspect.
Not all, but those who have, are due to the Pechenegs.
The history of the Balkans shows that Pechenegs migrated to Bosnia (most of them), but also to other Balkan countries. Some of them have been isolated and still speak the Pecheneg Turkish language: Gagauz and Balkan-Turks.
Radovan Karadzic is believed to be guilty of the Bosnian genocide. He was born in a village called Pecheneg.
Radovan Karadzic can be Pecheneg.
Bosnia registers Altaic and Central Asian DNA. It may be due to the Pechenegs.
In 2021, there are certain guys on Instagram who have created special accounts to prove it. Along with many documentaries, internet forums, websites.
In 2021, it is learned that Bosnia's history has been lying and manipulating, along with propaganda. But DNA tests and world history show that Bosnia comes from Pecheneg.
Many Bosniaks still declare themselves Pecheneg, although some do not want to recognize it.
The name Bosnia simply means: Pecheneg. An evaluation process.

The real roots of Bosnia are Pecenek.

Before the mixing of Slavic populations in the Balkans, the Bosnian area was much more Pecheneg, and some still spoke the language. But in 1000 years, they have been assimilated.

Religion has been added to the assimilation process. PAGANIA converts to the Avramic religions (Christian & Muslim) 1000 years ago. The only language spoken in the churches was not Turkish.

Only those who converted to Islam would have kept the true roots of Bosnia.

Those who kept Islam married in isolation.

Christians, in 1000 years, became completely absorbed because the Balkans were still Christian.

The population over which Pecheneg migrates from present-day Bosnia has long been Christian (of the Byzantine Empire). The Pechenegs who founded Bosnia gladly accept Christianity, but also assimilation.

Many words in Bosnian also exist in Turkish.

Many Bosnians look Turkish / Tatar / Central Asian.

Bosnia's culture (especially medieval) is similar to Turkey's (clothing, music, food, customs, etc.).

Of all the Balkan countries, Bosnian culture is one of the most similar to the rest of the Balkan countries.

Old Bosnian songs, there are also old Turkish songs.

The rhythm of the Bosnian songs proves both the Turkish influence and that they passed the Caucasus.

Even the last Bosnian still has a small trace of Pecheneg DNA.

Some Pecheneg history teachers even try to prove this, while others do not.

The Bosniaks were called "Pagania" because of their different religions in a mass full of Slavs, Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians, Vlachs, Greeks, who had been fully Christians for 1,000 years already.

Christianity 1000 years ago was at another level, especially in the former Byzantine territory that Pecheneg will now conquer. Sometimes there were cruelties, genocides, crimes, because of religions. This factor helped.

There is a legend that exists even on the internet, of a Pecheneg from Hungary who agreed to be buried alive because he did not want to convert to Christianity.

The only language on the market was Slavic.

Pecheneg more represented the Bosnian army. They are mercenaries.

These soldiers ended up marrying Slavic and Balkan women in the Bosnian area.

By doing this for 1000 years, Turkish was almost completely assimilated (only a few words, customs, cultures, traditions, songs) remained.

With the advent of the Ottomans, the Pechenegs completely gave up calling themselves Turks, being different from those Turks, so as not to be misunderstood.

Many Peceneks could have hidden this because of the genocide.

Bosnia = Pecheneg.

[TheMaestro]

Based on my intellectual capacity and my vast knowledge, tactically and tentatively, right from the beginning, of times especially in the light of Ecclesiastes evolution I have come to a concrete, definite and profound conclusion that I actually have nothing to say

[Hajimurad]

Extremely doubtful claim. After expulsion by Kipchaks Pechenegs split into two groups: first group settled in Hungary and became assimilated, while second group was settled by Byzantines in lands of Bulgaria and Macedonia. But Byzantine Pechenegs rebelled against emperor Alexios Comnenos and were defeated by him. Survivors of Pechenegs were later settled in Moglena district and, according to Jireček, became ancestors of Megleno-Romanians.
First real Turkics came to Bosnia under Ottoman empire.

[Roy]

Can you post those Central Asian looking Bosnians?

[Varda]

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...ateline_En.htm
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...ateline_En.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pechenegs

They disappear from history, exactly when the Bosnians appear.
They did not all die in the genocide, but many were assimilated.
Pecenek could have founded Bosnia. But being a small population, it was very quickly absorbed by the Slavs.
Pecenek allegedly liberated the native population of Bosnia from Greek rule.
Although Pecenek no longer exists (Bosnia being Slavic) it is possible that some Bosniaks contain a lot of Pecheneg blood.
Many Bosnians have Turkish / Central Asian eyes. As well as an aspect.
Not all, but those who have, are due to the Pechenegs.
The history of the Balkans shows that Pechenegs migrated to Bosnia (most of them), but also to other Balkan countries. Some of them have been isolated and still speak the Pecheneg Turkish language: Gagauz and Balkan-Turks.
Radovan Karadzic is believed to be guilty of the Bosnian genocide. He was born in a village called Pecheneg.
Radovan Karadzic can be Pecheneg.
Bosnia registers Altaic and Central Asian DNA. It may be due to the Pechenegs.
In 2021, there are certain guys on Instagram who have created special accounts to prove it. Along with many documentaries, internet forums, websites.
In 2021, it is learned that Bosnia's history has been lying and manipulating, along with propaganda. But DNA tests and world history show that Bosnia comes from Pecheneg.
Many Bosniaks still declare themselves Pecheneg, although some do not want to recognize it.
The name Bosnia simply means: Pecheneg. An evaluation process.

The real roots of Bosnia are Pecenek.

Before the mixing of Slavic populations in the Balkans, the Bosnian area was much more Pecheneg, and some still spoke the language. But in 1000 years, they have been assimilated.

Religion has been added to the assimilation process. PAGANIA converts to the Avramic religions (Christian & Muslim) 1000 years ago. The only language spoken in the churches was not Turkish.

Only those who converted to Islam would have kept the true roots of Bosnia.

Those who kept Islam married in isolation.

Christians, in 1000 years, became completely absorbed because the Balkans were still Christian.

The population over which Pecheneg migrates from present-day Bosnia has long been Christian (of the Byzantine Empire). The Pechenegs who founded Bosnia gladly accept Christianity, but also assimilation.

Many words in Bosnian also exist in Turkish.

Many Bosnians look Turkish / Tatar / Central Asian.

Bosnia's culture (especially medieval) is similar to Turkey's (clothing, music, food, customs, etc.).

Of all the Balkan countries, Bosnian culture is one of the most similar to the rest of the Balkan countries.

Old Bosnian songs, there are also old Turkish songs.

The rhythm of the Bosnian songs proves both the Turkish influence and that they passed the Caucasus.

Even the last Bosnian still has a small trace of Pecheneg DNA.

Some Pecheneg history teachers even try to prove this, while others do not.

The Bosniaks were called "Pagania" because of their different religions in a mass full of Slavs, Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians, Vlachs, Greeks, who had been fully Christians for 1,000 years already.

Christianity 1000 years ago was at another level, especially in the former Byzantine territory that Pecheneg will now conquer. Sometimes there were cruelties, genocides, crimes, because of religions. This factor helped.

There is a legend that exists even on the internet, of a Pecheneg from Hungary who agreed to be buried alive because he did not want to convert to Christianity.

The only language on the market was Slavic.

Pecheneg more represented the Bosnian army. They are mercenaries.

These soldiers ended up marrying Slavic and Balkan women in the Bosnian area.

By doing this for 1000 years, Turkish was almost completely assimilated (only a few words, customs, cultures, traditions, songs) remained.

With the advent of the Ottomans, the Pechenegs completely gave up calling themselves Turks, being different from those Turks, so as not to be misunderstood.

Many Peceneks could have hidden this because of the genocide.

Bosnia = Pecheneg.

Bullshits!

Bosna (Bosnia) is named by river Bosna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosna_(river)

Bosna came from Serbian word Bos which means Barefoot https://recnik.krstarica.com/e/?text...en&dst=sr&do=1

There is no genetic neither linguistic connection between Bosnians and Turkic people.

Bosnians are not ethnicity but geographical term which refers of all inhabitants of Bosnia (Serbs, Croatians and Muslims/Bosniaks), it's like Belgians or Swiss.

[Sora]

WTF?! Is that a joke? Pls, don't do that!

Bosnians(including Muslims) have nothing to do with either Turks or Turkic peoples. How many times should I say it?

Also I've always thought they are purest Slavs because a group of Bosniak students visited my school and 90% of them looked no different than stereotypical Russians

[Mortimer]

WTF?! Is that a joke? Pls, don't do that!

Bosnians(including Muslims) have nothing to do with either Turks or Turkic peoples. How many times should I say it?

Also I've always thought they are purest Slavs because a group of Bosniak students visited my school and 90% of them looked no different than stereotypical Russians

That's not true many of them look like modern turkey turks but a good percentage looks northern it will be a interesting task to collect info on eye hair color distribution of bosniaks

[Sora]

That's not true many of them look like modern turkey turks but a good percentage looks northern it will be a interesting task to collect info on eye hair color distribution of bosniaks

Yes, there are significant amount of Bosnians who can pass in Turkey easily but most of them would look kinda odd here. Because I'm friends with some of those Bosnian students on IG and even their relatives at their Insta photos look very stereotypical Slavic.

Note: I'm not lightwashing Bosnians, just told what I've observed.

[Sora]

Can you post those Central Asian looking Bosnians?

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Because there is none. The OP is just talking nonsense. There can be only mixed Bosnian-East Asian people who may look Central Asian

[Terminator98]

If you saw few people from there with "asiatic" eye shape, that's normal for every European country, but vast majority of them don't have it. I know because I visited Bosnia a lot of times (in fact, my father is Bosnian Serb).



About Ottoman cultural influence, well, as every Balkan country, it was under Ottoman rule for centuries so that's not strange at all, especially among Bosnian Muslims.
Bosnian Muslims are 100% Europeans with non-European religion and that's it.