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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
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    Because there is none. The OP is just talking nonsense. There can be only mixed Bosnian-East Asian people who may look Central Asian
    Many Central Asian looking Serbs have been posted, we have a Serbian-Hungarian Turanid member. I can think of a Lappid/Ural passing Slovenian(not Central Asian passing but can say Central Asian influenced).

    However, the academic samples of these populations show no East Asian genetic signal(the only recent exotic admixture they show is Caucasus related), which either means the samples aren't representative(i.e either this admixture still hasn't even been spread to outside a few people, or certain rural areas or big cities are undersampled), or it's a relic of ANE.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Maybe a tiny fraction but Bosnians are mostly I2 so they aren't Mongoloid. They are either Natives or came from Poland and Ukraine etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Many Central Asian looking Serbs have been posted, we have a Serbian-Hungarian Turanid member. I can think of a Lappid/Ural passing Slovenian(not Central Asian passing but can say Central Asian influenced).

    However, the academic samples of these populations show no East Asian genetic signal(the only recent exotic admixture they show is Caucasus related), which either means the samples aren't representative(i.e either this admixture still hasn't even been spread to outside a few people, or certain rural areas or big cities are undersampled), or it's a relic of ANE.
    if you mean the outlier from that "Western Balkan" study, that sample is a Romani/Bosnian mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    if you mean the outlier from that "Western Balkan" study, that sample is a Romani/Bosnian mix.
    No. Every Balkanite needs ancient Alan samples or samples with a heavy Caucasus shift when modeled with Ancient Balkanites(that includes IA Bulgaria, not just the Croatian sample), Slavic, Ancient Roman.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    No. Every Balkanite needs ancient Alan samples or samples with a heavy Caucasus shift when modeled with Ancient Balkanites(that includes IA Bulgaria, not just the Croatian sample), Slavic, Ancient Roman.
    I do need Alan samples for model but most south Slavs don't. They are perfectly modeled as Slavic + late Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    WTF?! Is that a joke? Pls, don't do that!

    Bosnians(including Muslims) have nothing to do with either Turks or Turkic peoples. How many times should I say it?

    Also I've always thought they are purest Slavs because a group of Bosniak students visited my school and 90% of them looked no different than stereotypical Russians
    A joke for sure. Topic setter posted this only for the fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    Yes, there are significant amount of Bosnians who can pass in Turkey easily but most of them would look kinda odd here. Because I'm friends with some of those Bosnian students on IG and even their relatives at their Insta photos look very stereotypical Slavic.

    Note: I'm not lightwashing Bosnians, just told what I've observed.
    Im not darkwashing them either, well they do not look exactly like kurds (mountain turks) or eastern turks. But they have a balkan look found also in Turkey. They do not look russian. Well some do. But the core looks balkan just like serbs. Alpinid, Dinarid, Pontid, with some Baltid influences sometimes. I know a few baltid or gorid influenced ones with light eyes.

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    Few years back 3/4 years I did PCA study with GEDmatch totals including Bosnians. In study was included over 1000 samples including number of branches Russian minorities, East Slavs, Balts, Fennoscandians, West Slavs, Germanics, Balkaners, Balkan Turks, Greeks, Albanians, Turks.

    There was group of outlier Bosnians that I provided for dataset from my own matches who made close distinct genetic cluster with some Carpatho Moldovans, Poles, Ukrainians, Romanians, Eastern Hungarians, one outlier Belarusian, Zaporozhian Cossack, and me.

    The samples I provided were all related and being managed by one person. Family name suffix spelling was not more common -ovic was instead -uz.

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    One of the most bizarre threads I've seen here in quite a while

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    Ima check back after see if anyone brings facts

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