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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Deci vezi, de asta arata aia acolo asa de multi a Rusi. Pentru ca multi provin din Ucrainieni romanizati
    Pentru mine nu-i nicio surpriza si demult am zis asta. Dar oricum sunt moldoveni/români ca majoritatea asa se identifica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Pentru mine nu-i nicio surpriza si demult am zis asta. Dar oricum sunt moldoveni/români ca majoritatea asa se identifica.
    Sadly, the genetic landscape of this area shows a very southern people genetically similar to Bulgarians and Gagauz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Sadly, the genetic landscape of this area shows a very southern people genetically similar to Bulgarians and Gagauz.
    Yep, and likewise in the North with people genetically similar to Ukrainians and Russians. Only the Centre is somewhat pure Moldovan. But such is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Yep, and likewise in the North with people genetically similar to Ukrainians and Russians. Only the Centre is somewhat pure Moldovan. But such is life.
    People here mixed with Bulgarians, bareilly with any Ukr/Russians, enough to go one district to the north, results start to be very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    People here mixed with Bulgarians, bareilly with any Ukr/Russians, enough to go one district to the north, results start to be very different.
    A lot of people in the North have Ukrainian surnames. There are full villages of people who identify as Moldovans but have Ukrainian surnames. And in the past they identified as Ukrainians if we go by historic maps. There's no point in denying that. Especially when this is also obvious from the difference in genetic results of the same people from the North. Some like the guys from Glodeni or those academic ones from Singerei look like your regular people in the Centre, but then there are many others who are halfway between them and Ukrainians. Others in general are in Ukrainian range. Such differences from people who live so close to each other can only arise from the introduction of foreign elements.

    People mixed with Bulgarians/Gagauz/Ukrainians/Russians/Germans in the South and they also mixed primarily with Ukrainians in the North and along the Dniester. With Russians less, because in villages they are less commonly found. With them, the mixing is almost entirely limited to urban settlements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    People mixed with Bulgarians/Gagauz/Ukrainians/Russians/Germans in the South
    +Aromanians/Romanians from across the Danube...the surname Chirciu of that Gagauz girl from an earlier thread is an example of that.

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    Very detailed map of the 2004 census


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    Zamfir Arbore, Basarabia in secolul XIX, 1898



    So according to the Moldovan/Romanian historian from Bukovina, Zamfir Arbore, some Romanians in Bessarabian regions bordering Podolia and Galicia come from Ruthenian/Ukrainian origins. In the past, at the end of the 16th and beginning of the 18th centuries they ran from Poland because they didn't want to convert to Catholicism. By 1898 they were already romanised for quite some time.

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    I tried to place that on a map (in grey) and unsurprisingly that also coincides with villages were the population is heavily Romanian/Moldovan by identity, but at the same time non-Romanian/Moldovan by surnames.

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    Village of Sircova from Rezina district

    Currently 96% Moldovan/Romanian

    Nr. Ord. Nationalitate Nr. Locuitori % de Locuitori
    1 Moldoveni/Romani 1 739 95.5
    2 Ucraineni 10 0.55
    3 Rusi 67 3.68
    4 Gagauzi 1 0.05
    5 Bulgari 1 0.05
    6 Evrei 0 0
    7 Polonezi 0 0
    8 Romi/Tigani 0 0
    9 Altele 3 0.16

    In 1820, it was about 86% Ukrainian, 4% Russian and 10% Moldovan/Romanian.



    All the Ukrainians now identify as Moldovans/Romanians. The data in the above map from 1820 is supported by the current surnames in the village. In red are those of non-Moldovan/Romanian origin (mainly Ukrainian and Russian).

    Nr. Ord. Nume de familie Numarul total de familii
    1 Lisnic 30
    2 Gavriliuc 23
    3 Covali 21
    4 Ceban 13
    5 Scutelnic 13
    6 Oloinic 12
    7 Oleinic 11
    8 Cusnir 10
    9 Popusoi 10
    10 Cuzmici 10
    11 Dolghii 10
    12 Bolganschi 9
    13 Rudii 8
    14 Odainic 8
    15 Slobodeniuc 8
    16 Cutii 7
    17 Melnic 7
    18 Strah 7
    19 Babunic 7
    20 Tcaci 6
    21 Dolgaia 6
    22 Dolghi 6
    23 Magola 6
    24 Spatari 5
    25 Teleatnic 5
    26 Crijanovschi 5
    27 Cutaia 4
    28 Railean 4
    29 Moscovciuc 4
    30 Sandu 4
    31 Bolganschii 4
    32 Babcinetcaia 4
    33 Litvac 4
    34 Braga 3
    35 Cirstea 3
    36 Bejenaru 3
    37 Diacov 3
    38 Timohin 3
    39 Traci 3
    40 Eremeeva 3
    41 Sevciuc 3
    42 Tverdohleb 3
    43 Tvigun 3
    44 Paun 2
    45 Martiniuc 2
    46 Colesnic 2
    47 Goncear 2
    48 Bejinari 2
    49 Zoia 2
    50 Corcescu 2

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