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    Quote Originally Posted by Damião de Góis View Post
    I think Porto has a different accent from other nearby cities.




    I watch snooker and i always thought strange that Stephen Hendry sounded very different from other scottish players like John Higgins or Stephen Maguire. I googled and Hendry is from Edinburgh and the others are from Glasgow so if those are good examples both accents sound very different to me.
    Stephen Hendry has a sort of Generic accent to me listening, I think he lived around different areas surrounding Edinburgh. John Higgins is pretty much West Coast, think he is Lanarkshire near Glasgow.


    Gordon Strachan is good example of an Edinburgh accent. Robert Carlyle is a very good example of Glasgow.

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    Which one do you have?
    I have a kind Midwestern Accent, kinda subtle. Kinda of a generic western accent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damião de Góis View Post
    I think Porto has a different accent from other nearby cities.




    I watch snooker and i always thought strange that Stephen Hendry sounded very different from other scottish players like John Higgins or Stephen Maguire. I googled and Hendry is from Edinburgh and the others are from Glasgow so if those are good examples both accents sound very different to me.
    Portugal is riddled with accents from North to South and islands.
    Interesting, my perception, and I have extensive knowledge of this region, is that what we usually refer to as Northern accent in Portugal, which is the actually the accent from Porto and surrounding areas (Trás-os-Montes, the Northeast, for instance, is different altogether), (with some variations, which is what you might be referring to) only changes to the North in the far North of Minho (Viana do Castelo is perhaps transitional), to the East in Trás-os-Montes, and to the South somewhere inbetween Porto and Aveiro. I'm currently staying in Rio Tinto at my aunt's house, so I had a talk with her and her boyfriend, who are from the region, and here's what they said: Viana doesn't have much of this accent but I have a friend who's from there who does and singer Quim Barreiros from Vila Praia de Âncora also notoriously does (both with the local variant IMO), so this fits with my idea. In Monção and Melgaço the accent is not of the "Northern types" by what I've seen. Some of places with the strongest accent are my father's town, Santo Tirso, and Guimarães, also the historical Ribeira neighbourhood in Porto and Gondomar. To the south people from Santa Maria da Feira have the accent but Ovar not, so that's where it stops. I also have a friend from Arouca who's accent can best be described as transitional between Northern and Beira Alta.
    In the rest of the country, in Coimbra we speak the most standart Portuguese according to general knowledge (often said to be "no accent", maybe it makes more sense to say that it's just the accent that was adopted as standart), but in Tondela for instance their accent is thick Beira Alta, Salazar who was from Santa Comba Dão also had it.
    In the Azores they have what is likely to be the most distinct of all accents from Portugal (surprisingly similar to that of Madeira, people often mistake the two, I know I have). Azoreans wil tell you there is no such thing as Azorean accent and there is one for each island, but, while it varies from island to island, they can (at least mostly) be grouped in a family like the Northern accent IMO. Rabo de Peixe in São Miguel Island is renowned for it's thick accent, in this video I do have a hard time understanding some parts, some bits I have no clue what he said at all without subtitles. How about you? And for those who don't speak Portuguese, how does it sound? It's said to be French influenced from colonists, and it does sound so.
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    In Spain, Catalans speak Castilian-Spanish with a very different accent from that spoken in Aragon or west of it (Madrid, Guadalajara, etc), and Galicians also speak with a very particular accent very different from those accents spoken in the Castilian mesetas. Then Andalusians speak with a particular accent very different from the accents spoken in most of the rest of Spain. But we are talking here about a distances of hundreds of Kilometers.

    In the case of Venezuela, examples of cities relatively close to each other that speak with very different accents that come to my mind include Valencia and Barquisimeto, which are about 2 hours drive distance from each other. While in Valencia they speak an accent very similar to that spoken in Caracas and other large cities from the northern Central region of the country, in Barquisimeto they speak with a different accent that sounds like being half way between the accents from the northern Central region and the accent from Zulia state, in the very west of the country.

    Then I think that the accent spoken in the city San Juan de Los Morros, located at only about 100 kilometers South southwest of Caracas, and similar distance south east from Maracay is noticeably different from the accents spoken in Caracas and Maracay. In San Juan de Los Morros they speak with a more "llanero" rural accent compared to the more urban accents spoken in Caracas or Maracay.

    Another example that comes to my mind would be the cities of Barinas city and Merida city. In Barinas, located in the warm llanos from Barinas state, in the outskirts of the Andes, they speak with a rural llanero accent very different from that spoken in Merida city, located at a high altitude in the Andes, where they speak with an Andean accent very similar to the Colombian accent spoken in the Colombian Santanderes. Nevertheless, Barinas and Ciudad Merida are not that far from each other, but they are at very different altitudes, of course.
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    Yes: sparta and gytheio, chios and mytilini, apeiranthos and the rest of towns/villages in naxos, patra and nafpaktos, samos and Ikaria etc have quite different dialects from each other in spite of geographical proximity

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    In Spain, Catalans speak Castilian-Spanish with a very different accent from that spoken in Aragon or west of it (Madrid, Guadalajara, etc), and Galicians also speak with a very particular accent very different from those accents spoken in the Castilian mesetas. Then Andalusians speak with a particular accent very different from the accents spoken in most of the rest of Spain. But we are talking here about a distances of hundreds of Kilometers.

    In the case of Venezuela, examples of cities relatively close to each other that speak with very different accents that come to my mind include Valencia and Barquisimeto, which are about 2 hours drive distance from each other. While in Valencia they speak an accent very similar to that spoken in Caracas and other large cities from the northern Central region of the country, in Barquisimeto they speak with a different accent that sounds like being half way between the accents from the northern Central region and the accent from Zulia state, in the very west of the country.

    Then I think that the accent spoken in the city San Juan de Los Morros, located at only about 100 kilometers South southwest of Caracas, and similar distance south east from Maracay is noticeably different from the accents spoken in Caracas and Maracay. In San Juan de Los Morros they speak with a more "llanero" rural accent compared to the more urban accents spoken in Caracas or Maracay.

    Another example that comes to my mind would be the cities of Barinas city and Merida city. In Barinas, located in the warm llanos from Barinas state, in the outskirts of the Andes, they speak with a rural llanero accent very different from that spoken in Merida city, located at a high altitude in the Andes, where they speak with an Andean accent very similar to the Colombian accent spoken in the Colombian Santanderes. Nevertheless, Barinas and Ciudad Merida are not that far from each other, but they are at very different altitudes, of course.
    So Venezuelans from Merida are the ones who sound the most similar to people from the Andean parts of Colombia?

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    Even within the same state you can attest something like this, São Paulo being a prime example.

    A stereotypical paulistano (i.e. from São Paulo City) accent:



    The caipira (0:21) accent from Piracicaba:



    I don't know if non-Portuguese speakers can notice the differences very well, but any Brazilian can tell them apart on the spot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtuv View Post
    for those who don't speak Portuguese, how does it sound? It's said to be French influenced from colonists, and it does sound so.
    Portuguese sounds to us like Polish with an Arabic shade. Totally alien to French.
    How could French have influenced Portuguese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    Portuguese sounds to us like Polish with an Arabic shade. Totally alien to French.
    How could French have influenced Portuguese?
    The accent from the Azores (especially on that specific island) is what is said to be influenced by French colonists that settled there. Portuguese accent from the mainland is obviously not French influenced. Interesting, very rarely have I heard it said Portuguese has an Arabic shade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    So Venezuelans from Merida are the ones who sound the most similar to people from the Andean parts of Colombia?
    The states of Merida, Trujillo and Tachira.

    Trujillo not that strongly similar but still somewhat similar, Merida in between, and Tachira the most.

    Talking here about similarity with the Andean Colombian accent from the Santanderes, to be more precise.
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