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    It seems i missed this paper. Summary of the conclusions:

    • It looks like there was a large back-migration event in the Late Middle Paleolithic which replaced a large part of the population of Sub-Saharan Africa.
    • No evidence for bidirectional geneflow after the out-of-Africa event.
    • The Eurasian back-migration seems to predate admixture events with archaic hominids - no evidence of Neanderthal and Denisovan in modern-day Africans.
    • The estimates were 0.35±0.04 for Niger-Kordofanians, and 0.41±0.03 for Nilo-Saharans when using modern-day Eurasians as reference. The authors tells us that these figures may be even higher given that the Neanderthal admixture in the references used may deflate the real percentages.
    • South African hunter-gatherers such as the Khoe-san got substantially less Eurasian admixture, more or less half the amount of admixture seen in Yoruba and Nilo-Saharans.
    • Mbuti-Biaka are intermediate between Khoe-san and West Africans in terms of Eurasian admixture.


    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...555v1.full.pdf
    Abstract: Genetic diversity across human populations has been shaped by demographic history, making it possible
    to infer past demographic events from extant genomes. However, demographic inference in the ancient
    past is dicult, particularly around the out-of-Africa event in the Late Middle Paleolithic, a period of
    profound importance to our species’ history. Here we present SMCSMC, a Bayesian method for inference of
    time-varying population sizes and directional migration rates under the coalescent-with-recombination
    model, to study ancient demographic events. We find evidence for substantial migration from the
    ancestors of present-day Eurasians into African groups between 40 and 70 thousand years ago, predating
    the divergence of Eastern and Western Eurasian lineages. This event accounts for previously unexplained
    genetic diversity in African populations, and supports the existence of novel population substructure
    in the Late Middle Paleolithic. Our results indicate that our species’ demographic history around the
    out-of-Africa event is more complex than previously appreciated.

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    Related to Haplo E I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Related to Haplo E I wonder?
    Or maybe those R1b in West Africa can explain this? Hausas are almost 50% R1b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos One View Post
    Or maybe those R1b in West Africa can explain this? Hausas are almost 50% R1b.
    The R1b came from later Neolithic migrations, that is already established. The Hausa have excess Eurasian when compared to Yoruba.

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    We find evidence for substantial migration from the ancestors of present-day Eurasians into African groups between 40 and 70 thousand years ago, predating the divergence of Eastern and Western Eurasian lineages.
    So that doesn't mean West African blacks are 1/3 Caucasoid or anything like that. Still totally black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So that doesn't mean West African blacks are 1/3 Caucasoid or anything like that. Still totally black.
    It was probably something like Basal Eurasian i.e the non Villabruna-like admixture in West Eurasians which peaks in Bedouins. I'd bet it comes from a lineage that stayed in southern Arabia after the out-of-Africa event and then migrated back to the continent instead of going north with the would-be West and East Eurasians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    It was probably something like Basal Eurasian i.e the non Villabruna-like admixture in West Eurasians which peaks in Bedouins. I'd bet it comes from a lineage that stayed in southern Arabia after the out-of-Africa event and then migrated back to the continent instead of going north with the would-be West and East Eurasians.
    So, those Eurasians were like Veddoid tribes of South Arabia who speak South Arabian languages (Soqotri, Mahra, etc.)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    So, those Eurasians were like Veddoid tribes of South Arabia who speak South Arabian languages (Soqotri, Mahra, etc.)?
    Mehri are regular Arabians and West Eurasians, see here. Soqotrians are probably no different given their paternal lineages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Mehri are regular Arabians and West Eurasians, see here. Soqotrians are probably no different given their paternal lineages.
    Then which modern population is closer to these Eurasians?

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