WHG = EHG + X (Bichon-like).

[Hasien]

Modern Europeans should be thank ful the way they look because of certain components reaching Europe pecially the blonde gene ANE that Is naturally from Eurasia.

[Flashball]

No.

[Italicus]

Holy shit. I thought ANE was WHG mixed with mongoloid, buy I guess I was completely wrong.

[Petalpusher]

Rethel being Rethel he doesn't get there is a cline between WHG-SHG-EHG-ANE. That's like 5 years after the party. EHG has more WHG than WHG has EHG or ANE anyway, 8% taking Bichon as a baseline but nowadays we would rather use Villabruna. A bit of admixture in both directions is expected, and even more in intermediates like SHG's, as they were the only things living there at the time chasing big game around and dealing with changing climates. Furthermore it doesn't prove anything Rethel thinks it proves, especially judging by the incredible amount of highly ANE populations such as Amerindians and Indians with white skin, blue eyes and blond hair. All those are later developpements and recombinations.

[Leto]

Furthermore it doesn't prove anything Rethel thinks it proves, especially judging by the incredible amount of highly ANE populations such as Amerindians and Indians with white skin, blue eyes and blond hair. All those are later developpements and recombinations.

Never seen such Amer(indians). Are you saying they aren't part white or something?

[Petalpusher]

Never seen such Amer(indians). Are you saying they aren't part white or something?

No that was ironic. ANE evolved through time like every other ancestral elements, it's just not 100% in a group anymore. We are all much more WHG like than ANE like in Europe today and our is more recent.

[Italicus]

What, so I'm confused. I thought ANE was WHG mixed with Tianyuan East Eurasian, right? Or is it a completely separate Caucasoid component?

[Petalpusher]

The general consensus is post OoA, what became Eurasians as we know today, split into a East and a West Eurasians branch. Inside that West branch they split into 3 main isolated strands leading to main/Basal Eurasian around the Near East, WHG around Western Europe, and ANE around Siberia. Later as each populations grew up, they all met back together scattered around West Eurasia, under different strains and proportions:

-A lone hunter element locally in the mesolithic on that WHG/ANE cline (WHG-SHG-EHG-AG).
-A mixture of both Basal Eurasian and WHG in Anatolian farmers, in the neolithic.
-A mix of EHG (ANE+WHG) + CHG (Basal+ANE), in IE of the metal ages.
Finally a clusterfuck of all this, with late cultures of farmers (Globular amphora especially) + IEs when they settled in Europe, leading to Bell Beakers, Corded Ware,.. and everything else today.

it's very possible ANE did trail back a little longer with the East Eurasian branch, as it still shows some affinity to them (about 2/3 west, 1/3 east), or maybe just less isolated in the process due to its original location but it's certainly not an anachronic mix of WHG and East Eurasian like Chineses, it's just less removed from them than WHG managed to overtime, while they had the same source initially. East Asians probably had a similar mixing process, albeit maybe less complicated, it's just not as studied yet in details at every steps.

It would be a normal process even for speciation, isolation>selection>mixing>pressure> selection>isolation, etc...and by mixing we are talking about very related things in the first place that got isolated enough, which speeds up evolution between phase of selection and isolation as the new mix acquires all the painfully selected genes of both elements to choose from. It still happens all the time in animals, humans were not immune from this mechanism, except today we ve reached a technological level that doesn't put any severe pressure on our species anymore (except maybe some sexual selection like height)