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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I found 40% of mixed (hazel) eyes in that study. Pure dark were way below his data, despite 40% hazel seems way too much. Poor quality pics probably, despite hazel eyes are supper common here indeed.
    I found 31% pure light in that study and in other one with high quality pics 38% for Dalmatia and 36% for Herzegovina (excluding hazel).

    My point is, Albanians are visibly darker than us, as they should be since genetically they are extremely far apart considering small geographic distance is.
    I doubt Albanians are that much darker than your average Croat for Zadar. And autosomal DNA isn't always relevant concerning average pigmentation. Serbs and Albanians aren't really autosomally close either and we have the same amount of light eyes on average as these Kosovar parlamentarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    And autosomal DNA isn't always relevant concerning average pigmentation.
    It is on group level. Except when some very northern population has non white admix like Saami which darkened them.
    Serbs are lighter than Albanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Pure dark were way below his data,
    I never said anything about pure dark eyes in any study I did on Croatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    It is on group level. Except when some very northern population has non white admix like Saami which darkened them.
    Serbs are lighter than Albanians.
    Serbs have more northern phenotypes (facial features) on average. If you disregard cherrypicked photos and just compared parlamentarians, sports teams, etc. you'd see the pigmentation is no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Serbs have more northern phenotypes (facial features) on average.
    That is because we are more barbaric genetically. We are mutts. It is what it is . I don’t know why a major chunk of Europe(Balkans) is treated like some exotic fringe region. It was the easiest area of Europe for different tribes to attack Rome and even before the Romans thanks to the Pannonian plain. The plains definitely gave the Huns and their midget ponies an advantage! Then you have the two major empires back in the day where people moved around more so than any other part of Europe. Bosniensis would explain all of this better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    I never said anything about pure dark eyes in any study I did on Croatia.
    Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    That is because we are more barbaric genetically. We are mutts. It is what it is . I don’t know why a major chunk of Europe(Balkans) is treated like some exotic fringe region. It was the easiest area of Europe for different tribes to attack Rome and even before the Romans thanks to the Pannonian plain. The plains definitely gave the Huns and their midget ponies an advantage! Then you have the two major empires back in the day where people moved around more so than any other part of Europe. Bosniensis would explain all of this better
    It's enough to have a few dark and exotic phenotypes and low blondism for a region to be labeled as exotic. And the same logic you use, which I think is sound, is used by others, even locals, to claim the Ottoman empire changed the Balkans genetically. Many people here, especially women, think we're a mix of barbarian Slavs and Ottomans Terminator told me had to argue and dissuade some individuals in real life who kept making those exact claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    It's enough to have a few dark and exotic phenotypes and low blondism for a region to be labeled as exotic. And the same logic you use, which I think is sound, is used by others, even locals, to claim the Ottoman empire changed the Balkans genetically. Many people here, especially women, think we're a mix of barbarian Slavs and Ottomans Terminator told me had to argue and dissuade some individuals in real life who kept making those exact claims.
    I didn’t mean exotic in looks, just not really a part of Europe. If it isn’t Europe then neither are the British isles or Iceland if you get what I mean. Since it’s Friday I’d also like to add that if it wasn’t for the Huns the Lombards would’ve stayed in Pannonia instead of fleeing to Italy( could be why they decided to assimilate into the Roman population due to being ashamed that they were defeated. The Lombards decimated their own kin, the Gepids ffs) and the Balkans probably would be mostly Germanic speaking today instead of Slavic speaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    I counted Kosovo parliament (120 members). Due to the limited image quality I had to join Brown and dark Hazel into one category. There were a lot of mixed eyes so I added the "evenly mixed" category.

    11 members were Serbian and one was Roma (Gypsy). Out of the Albanian rest there were:

    Blue 9,2%
    Grey 7,4%
    Light Mixed 8,3%
    Evenly Mixed 13%
    Dark Hazel and Brown 62%


    In total 16,6% pure light eyes and 24,9% if you add light mixed ones.
    Compare my brown eyes ad pure light results to Albania and it's very close only slightly lighter. But we must keep in mind that Kosovars are probably descendants of North Albanians so they are likely a bit lighter than average Albanian


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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Compare my brown eyes ad pure light results to Albania and it's very close only slightly lighter. But we must keep in mind that Kosovars are probably descendants of North Albanians so they are likely a bit lighter than average Albanian

    Everyone in the Balkans has pretty much the same eye and hair color pigmentation. Bosniaks and southern Croats are a bit lighter and other Croats are noticeably lighter. XenophobicPrussian's hair color study on those football players is a great example. You don't even need to dig to deep to figure it out, just comparing a few random teams from each country is enough, in my opinion. A modern eye color study done in the same manner would yield similar results.

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