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    Abstract: The Cycladic, the Minoan, and the Helladic (Mycenaean) cultures define the Bronze Age (BA) of Greece. Urbanism, complex social structures, craft and agricultural specialization, and the earliest forms of writing, characterize this iconic period. We sequenced six early to middle BA whole genomes, along with 11 mtDNA genomes, sampled from the three BA cultures of the Aegean Sea. The Early BA (EBA) genomes are homogeneous and derive most of their ancestry from Neolithic Aegeans, contrary to earlier hypotheses that the Neolithic-EBA cultural transition was due to massive population turn-over. EBA Aegeans were shaped by relatively small-scale migration from East of the Aegean, as evidenced by the Caucasus-related ancestry also detected in Anatolians. In contrast, Middle BA (MBA) individuals of northern Greece differ from EBA populations in showing ~50% Pontic-Caspian Steppe-related ancestry, dated at ca. 2,600-2,000 BCE. Such gene flow events during the MBA contributed towards shaping present-day Greek genomes.
    https://trace.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Trace...tudy=ERP121113

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Abstract: The Cycladic, the Minoan, and the Helladic (Mycenaean) cultures define the Bronze Age (BA) of Greece. Urbanism, complex social structures, craft and agricultural specialization, and the earliest forms of writing, characterize this iconic period. We sequenced six early to middle BA whole genomes, along with 11 mtDNA genomes, sampled from the three BA cultures of the Aegean Sea. The Early BA (EBA) genomes are homogeneous and derive most of their ancestry from Neolithic Aegeans, contrary to earlier hypotheses that the Neolithic-EBA cultural transition was due to massive population turn-over. EBA Aegeans were shaped by relatively small-scale migration from East of the Aegean, as evidenced by the Caucasus-related ancestry also detected in Anatolians. In contrast, Middle BA (MBA) individuals of northern Greece differ from EBA populations in showing ~50% Pontic-Caspian Steppe-related ancestry, dated at ca. 2,600-2,000 BCE. Such gene flow events during the MBA contributed towards shaping present-day Greek genomes.
    https://trace.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Trace...tudy=ERP121113

    Greeks from Steppe_MLBA confirmed
    Is it though? I'll read the paper later but would like to know forsure, but at most Greeks from Steppe confirmed.

    The quote doesn't specify whether they modelled them with Yamnaya or Steppe_MLBA. Typically MLBA refers to CW, Sintashta, Andronovo, Srubnaya, Fatyanovo, etc, who actually clustered with modern Europeans while Yamnaya were basically just Caucasoid Tatars.

    Greek, Albanian and Armenian are pretty different from other IE languages, so it would be interesting to see if they came from the same CW source or Yamnaya. It is a big difference.

    Either way, the Greek language, Religion and Y-DNA is from a northern source, but all evidence points to the civilizational process still coming from the east/south with CHG and Levant_N related ancestry(including in Italy), not IE(nor locally born out of EEFs either), before anyone wants to suggest so.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    50% Steppe? Awesome. Wonder where they plotted genetically.

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    Right in time

    Kou01 Cycladic-Koufonisi-EBA

    K36

    Distance to: x
    2.83879574 GR_Rhodos
    2.92015056 Cyprus_Greek
    2.93593838 GR_Ikaria
    2.99623464 GR_Symi
    3.03425934 GR_Karpathos
    3.04702372 GR_Chios
    3.11979954 GR_Kalymnos
    3.13716166 German_Ashkenazy
    3.15996715 GR_Smyrna
    3.16542319 IT_Calabria

    Target: x | ADC: 1x
    99.0 GR_Rhodos
    1.0 Lebanon_Maronite




    Soon more.

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    Log02 Helladic-Logkas-MBA

    K36

    Distance to: x
    1.59500972 IT_Ladinia
    1.67668337 FR_Provence
    1.68069543 IT_Umbria
    1.71909086 IT_Abruzzo
    1.72958390 IT_Liguria
    1.74136757 Portugal_South
    1.75062196 IT_Piedmont
    1.76722862 PT_Madeira
    1.78631961 IT_Basilicata
    1.78702379 IT_Lazio


    K13
    Components %
    North_Atlantic 33,47
    Baltic 2,92
    West_Med 19,87
    West_Asian 10,70
    East_Med 26,03
    Red_Sea 3,43
    South_Asian 0,00
    East_Asian 0,00
    Siberian 0,00
    Amerindian 0,70
    Oceanian 1,86
    Northeast_African 0,00
    Sub-Saharan 1,03

    Code:
    Log02,33.47,2.92,19.87,10.7,26.03,3.43,0,0,0,0.7,1.86,0,1.03

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    So MBA Greeks plot with central Italians? Well, that's not 50% steppe, right? Except other samples are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    So MBA Greeks plot with central Italians? Well, that's not 50% steppe, right? Except other samples are different.
    50% Steppe_MLBA/CWC-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    So MBA Greeks plot with central Italians? Well, that's not 50% steppe, right? Except other samples are different.
    I remind that many Albanians get central Italian results on both G25 or Gedmatch....

    I'm checking other samples too. Soon more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    50% Steppe_MLBA/CWC-like.
    Wouldn't they plot more north in such case? I'm not sure, just asking. Maybe we should wait for Lucas to run other samples.

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