There is only one truth

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = MegaArgus1; 7083087] Това, че България е издала българо-гръцки речник, в който се твърди, че езикът в Егейска Македония е български, е факт, но истината е, че езикът е / не е македонски, а не български. [/ QUOTE]

It was not issued by Bulgaria, but by Greece.The original is clearly visible.I posted it

[PAGANE]

I guess the only problem the Frenchman had with labeling it as Bulgarian was that they saw that there was already a Bulgar Turkic language with the same name. To avoid confusion, they named it Macedonian, as it was found in Kostur/Kastoria, Macedonia.

I don't see any other reason they would lie about it. Unless you think they were influenced by the communists?

But granted. Yes, it appears the original says Bulgarian in Greek letters.

Very interesting and quite astounding is the fact that alot of those words noted from the 16th century still exist in modern Macedonian. It looks like Macedonian has been preserved very well down the centuries.

But im sure you would agree, by looking at those words, that it appears they look different from what you know to be the standard Bulgarian language today in Bulgaria? (yes i know your language is based off the eastern dialects).

Following is a list of sentences made up using the words in that same source. And how they compare to the Bitola dialect (Bitola dialect was the basis of the standard Macedonian language).
16th cent., Kostur dialect
21st cent., Bitola dialect
Gospodine, brate, da si zdrav, da si prost, ostavi ni da spime, ela da jame, i da pieme, dol da pojdime, da rabotime.
Gospodine, brate, da si zdrav, da si prost, ostai ne da spiame, ela da jaime, i da piame, dolu da pojdime, da rabotime.
Imate hljap-o da kupime, imate vino da kupime, ot koja strana da pojdime vo Bogasko.
Imate lep da kupime, imate vino da kupime, od koja strana da pojdime vo Bogatsko.
This is the front cover of the translation by the Frenchmen:

The story must be adequate to the facts and then there is no problem. In this case, we are talking about a pure lie on the part of the two professors, and this is not history. You want facts, when you are given facts, you make some assumptions. The facts are as follows. The language spoken today in Northern Macedonia is one of the Bulgarian dialects, which is why it is written in Greek-Bulgarian, not Greek-Macedonian or Greek-Serbian or Greek-Russian. The people who spoke it in the 16th century were defined as Bulgarians, and another issue is that today their descendants have decided to change history and facts.
What was the reason for such a change on the part of the French, I do not know and I can not guess, but it is unprofessional and speaks of their incompetence and calls into question their activities, regardless of motives - whether it is ignorance or someone's influence on them.At the risk of disappointing you, but these expressions are preserved in Bulgaria to this day in the free conversation of people, in the dialects in different parts of Bulgaria. I am from Dobrudja and the way I speak differs in pronunciation, with the presence of some words typical only for my region compared to those from the region of Sofia, from the region of southeastern Bulgaria, from the region of southwestern, northwestern Bulgaria, from the region of The Rhodopes. Like all of them, they differ from each other, but our language is one - Bulgarian, as well as the one spoken in the Republic of Northern Macedonia.

16th century, Kostur dialect
Господине, брате, да си здрав, да си простен/от прошка/, остави ни да спиме, ела да ядеме /яме е спрежение на глагола Ям/, и да пиеме, дол да ходиме /пойдиме от ходя/одя/, да роботиме.


Имате хляб /хляп-о/ да купиме, имате вино да купите, от която страна да отидете во Богашко

21st century Bulgarian
Господине, брате, да си здрав, да си простен/от прошка/, остави ни да спиме, ела да ядеме /яме е спрежение на глагола Ям/, и да пиеме, дол да ходиме /пойдиме от ходя/одя/, да роботиме.


Имате хляб /хляп-о/ да купиме, имате вино да купите, от която страна да отидете во Богашко

[Novi Pazar]

The Bulgarians were dragged out of Hellenism by Pan-Slavic forces in Russia and Serbia. It's funny how they spit on these nations today, and even have the nerve to call us Serbian creations.

Yes that’s right. How is it, a Bulgar like Paiisy being spiritually awaken by Serbs in a monastery and being influenced to do something for our brothers in b’lgarska.......the return, bulgars crapping on Serbs, dividing Serbs and showing off piles of Serb bones for the world to see.

Guys this is the reason why l cannot stand to see the abbreviation of VRMO in my face considering this was a bulgar-Russo stance on Serbs and that Delchev seen as a saint, sorry Macedonians here.

[Novi Pazar]

That the Bulgaria had issued Bulgarian - Greek Dictionary claiming the language in Aegean Macedonia was Bulgarian is a fact, but the truth is that language was/is Macedonian not Bulgarian.

You need to fully understand that name Bulgaria meant VULGAR dirty and second class, peasantry class. The name Bulgar was used to even define Serbs from Bosnia. Do you know of koine Greek and it’s application of Boulgaroi and Bolgaroi etc?

[PAGANE]

[ЦИТА = Crn Volk; 7083126] Може би, но той е бил базиран в сръбския манастир Хиландар и дори носи името си от там. Той е ВЪЗРАЖДАТЕЛЯТ на българската нация и е повлиян от пряко сърбите и руснаците. Екзархията е руски проект, общославянски проект, който ще ги накара да се имплантират на Балканите. Екзархията / Българската православна църква остана схизматична именно поради своите политически / национални корени. Нейният разкол приключи, когато тя се отказа от епархии в Македония и други области през 1953 г. Това е и причината, поради която БПЦ не можеше да приеме да бъде майка-църква на МПЦ преди няколко години (освен руското влияние в БПЦ). [/ ЦИТАТА]

In the 17th century, the number of Serbian monks decreased, and the catastrophic fire of 1722 declined: in his 1745 account, the Russian pilgrim Vasily Barsky wrote that Hilandar was headed by Bulgarian monks, although the presence of Serbian monks was alsonoted.Ilarion Makariopolski, Sofroniy Vrachanski and Matei Preobrazhenski lived there and it was in this monastery that St. Paisii Hilendarski began his revolutionary Slavo-Bulgarian history.The monastery was dominated by Bulgarians until the end of the 19th century

[Novi Pazar]

^ oh funk! When will you B’lgar quit with BS.

NOW ADMIT JOVAN RAJIC EXCITED YOUR PAIISY, if you can not then your a BS artist!

[PAGANE]

[ЦИТАТ = Войник; 7083130] Петър Богдан, предполагаем български възрожденец, е написал „История на България“ през 17 век (очевидно).

Те откриха „отдавна изгубения“ ръкопис преди няколко години и твърдяха, че ще превеждат. Но все още не се появява никъде, за да бъде намерен.

Очевидно той е писал за това, което смята за българска етническа територия.

https://balkaninsight.com/2017/12/20...ry-12-18-2017/ [/ QUOTE]


The history of Bulgaria by Petar Bogdan with the original title "De antiquitate Paterni soli, et de rebus Bulgaricis ad suos Compatriotas" (in Bulgarian: "For the antiquity of the fatherland and for the Bulgarian affairs to his compatriots") completed around 1667, is the most the earliest known historiographical work on the history of Bulgaria, preceding by about a century the History of Bulgaria written in 1761 by the Catholic Father Blasius Kleiner and the work "Slavo-Bulgarian History" by Paisii Hilendarski from 1762. The text of the history is unknown until 1979. ., when a 9-page transcript of the history was found in the Vatican, containing an introduction, 3 chapters and part four. Until then, she was known only from information in letters from Peter Bogdan. In 2017 in the University Library of the Italian city of Modena by Prof. Lilia Ilieva was discovered the entire author's manuscript of history, and in 2020 it was published as a book - by the University Publishing House "Neofit Rilski" as a facsimile edition and by the University Publishing House. St. Kliment Ofridski "with a translation into Bulgarian The manuscript has been preserved because there have always been people who have appreciated it. He had the chance to get into the collection of the Italian historian and scholar Marquis Giuseppe Campori (1821-1887). The Marquis' mother's name was Mariana Bulgarini, and this is probably why Peter Bogdan's work aroused his interest. After the Marquis' death, his collection passed to the University Library of Modena, where it is still located today. Probably the manuscript before it was included in this collection - in 1983 it was in one of the monasteries of Dubrovnik, where there is information about the manuscript of Peter Bogdan, who, however, had long since left the monastery library, without information about his fate. onwards. The findings so far, including the discovered parts of the transcripts of the "History", are accepted as indirect evidence of the existence of the work. For this reason, many were skeptical and accepted the work of Peter Bogdan as an unproven historical legend.Title page of the author's manuscrip


He is the author of the first "History of Bulgaria", written about a century before Paisieva, as well as other books on historical topics"History of Ohrid - the capital of Bulgaria","Chronicle of the Moravian mission of St.St. Cyril and Methodius ",The Diocese of Prizren and others.Here is the 2020 edition of this story, , for those who have not seen it

[Vojnik]

Stop with copy pasting everything. Where is the translation? Not what people think it says in the book.

[Crn Volk]

Pagane is the new Raine

[Vojnik]

Anyway. The truth is clear in this thread. Macedonian Slavs and Bulgarians had the same national revival. The fight in Macedonia and Thrace against the Turks was obviously a single unified effort.

It’s too hard fighting against all the facts.