There is only one truth

[Vojnik]

Large parts of our population were Serbophile and Grecophile also. Don't fall into the Bulgarian trap.

Bro, all the komiti we celebrate would have been seen as Bugaroman's by today's Macedonians.

[Crn Volk]

Bro, all the komiti we celebrate would have been seen as Bugaroman's by today's Macedonians.

No, not all. The left wing of VMRO and it's leaders were celebrated in Yugoslav Macedonia. Right-wing and even some separatist left-wingers were treated as Bugarashi/Bugaromani indeed eg., Vancho Mihailov, Boris Sarafov, Todor Alexandrov, Alexander Protogerov, Hristo Tatarchev, Panko Brashnarov and even Metodija-Andonov Chento. Some of them have been rehabilitated in recent times though.

In saying this, you can't ignore the Serbian Chetnik struggle in Macedonia or even the Greek Makedonomachi in southern parts of N Macedonia, not to mention Aegean Macedonia. If you're interested in the truth, you cannot ignore this.

[MegaArgus1]

Нашите беа селани. Не знаја многу за историјата и етнографијата.

Зборувам за нашите интелектуалци пред 150 години, кои го признаваја нашата близност со таа група словенски народ кои се во денешна Бугарија.

Не можеме да криеме од тоа.

I am disappointed in you again. I will be OFF for a while from this forum (again) to save myself from frustration.

[Vojnik]

No, not all. The left wing of VMRO and it's leaders were celebrated in Yugoslav Macedonia. Right-wing and even some separatist left-wingers were treated as Bugarashi/Bugaromani indeed eg., Vancho Mihailov, Boris Sarafov, Todor Alexandrov, Alexander Protogerov, Hristo Tatarchev, Panko Brashnarov and even Metodija-Andonov Chento. Some of them have been rehabilitated in recent times though.

In saying this, you can't ignore the Serbian Chetnik struggle in Macedonia or even the Greek Makedonomachi in southern parts of N Macedonia, not to mention Aegean Macedonia. If you're interested in the truth, you cannot ignore this.

Most of the Makedonomachi were foreigners from Greek south. Serb Chetniks were insignificant.

Vancho was full blown Bulgarian. No rehabilitation possible there.

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = MegaArgus1; 7084348] България беше обещала да снабди Македония с ваксини за Covid19, но изглежда, че само 100 ваксини са това, което България възнамерява да достави. Изглежда ми на шега, те твърдят, че са издали 80000 паспорта, което означава, че имат 80000 български граждани в Македония, така че какво ще кажете за тях? Във всеки случай дори тези 100 все още не са издадени.
„Заев написа във Фейсбук, че е разговарял с президента на Сърбия Александър Вучич, който се е съгласил да помогне на Северна Македония, като добави, че детайлите по доставката се определят.
„Имаме щастливи новини. Получаваме 8 000 ваксини Pfizer от Сърбия. Президентът Вучич потвърди днес, че Сърбия ще ни помогне с ваксини от нейните поръчки, които ще платим на изкупна цена “, написа той, добавяйки, че това е„ акт на солидарност от съседа и укрепване на нашето приятелство “.
https://europeanwesternbalkans.com/2...e-from-serbia/ [/ QUOTE]


One reason for Bulgaria to help you? What are you like to us? Bulgarian citizens in Northern Macedonia can be vaccinated in Bulgaria when it becomes available to everyone. At the moment it is to certain target groups such as doctors who are on the front line. It is good that Serbia gives you vaccines, that you are Serbophiles and Bulgarian haters. Don't wait for someone to give you something.

[Crn Volk]

Most of the Makedonomachi were foreigners from Greek south. Serb Chetniks were insignificant.

Vancho was full blown Bulgarian. No rehabilitation possible there.

A good percentage of them were Slavophones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...naries_(Greek)

As for Serbo-Macedonian Chetniks, they were significant enough to wage war with VMRO and the SMC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...onian_Struggle

[Archduke]

A good percentage of them were Slavophones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...naries_(Greek)

As for Serbo-Macedonian Chetniks, they were significant enough to wage war with VMRO and the SMC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...onian_Struggle

If you insist about the significance of Serb and Greek forces in Macedonia, then better identify with them. It would be good if also all northmacedonians follow this.

According to northmacedonians, during medieval times, the byzantines falsely described Samuel as Bulgarian king and his country as Bulgaria.

During Ottoman times, the Turks also falsely registreted the population of Macedonia as Bulgarians... . Because they were ignorant. Same with the Western travelers, they falsely described the population as Bulgarian.

Later, the Exarchate forced the population of northmacedonia to identify as Bulgarians, including revolutioneers, poets, intelectuals.

Then the Yugoslav authorities sent Macedonians to Goli otok as Bugarashi.... Because that's how right wing northmacedobians were described.

You are a joke. Better remove your signature

[Crn Volk]

If you insist about the significance of Serb and Greek forces in Macedonia, then better identify with them. It would be good if also all northmacedonians follow this.

According to northmacedonians, during medieval times, the byzantines falsely described Samuel as Bulgarian king and his country as Bulgaria.

During Ottoman times, the Turks also falsely registreted the population of Macedonia as Bulgarians... . Because they were ignorant. Same with the Western travelers, they falsely described the population as Bulgarian.

Later, the Exarchate forced the population of northmacedonia to identify as Bulgarians, including revolutioneers, poets, intelectuals.

Then the Yugoslav authorities sent Macedonians to Goli otok as Bugarashi.... Because that's how right wing northmacedobians were described.

You are a joke. Better remove your signature

We have Komiti and Vojvodi that participated in ASNOM and became part of the ruling class in R. Macedonia. This meant the full support of Macedonism. I think we should be elavating such people to hero status. As for those that identified as Bulgarians, but still fought for an independent Macedonia, they can be subject to joint celebration with Bulgaria. Those that supported direct unification of Macedonia with Bulgaria - they're all yours. You can have them.

Samuel was Tsar of Bulgaria, or sometimes Western Bulgaria. No dispute there. He however was not of the Dulo clan and only part Slavic.

[catgeorge]

Most of the Makedonomachi were foreigners from Greek south. Serb Chetniks were insignificant.

Vancho was full blown Bulgarian. No rehabilitation possible there.

Filthbag - what foreigners from the south? Do you say Bulgars from the East or Serbs from the West? Do you expect Greeks not to help their own people? You are a Bolshevik mouth puppet propagandist.

[Vojnik]

Filthbag - what foreigners from the south? Do you say Bulgars from the East or Serbs from the West? Do you expect Greeks not to help their own people? You are a Bolshevik mouth puppet propagandist.

Yes, your Greek bouzouki players from the southern Greek islands are foreign to the mountaineers of Macedonia.