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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    In 1821 and 1854 and 1897 wars there were no Slavic speakers in Macedonia - Slavic speakers came with Excharte and all its Bulgarian schools and churches.

    Thats what San Stefano was all about.
    If you want to start a off topic banana thread. Then go to Greek section.

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    Trayko Chundev - Macedonian revolutionaire from IMRO, took part of the creation of the new Macedonian country within Yugoslavia and the codification of the official language of the republic. He was killed because he was against the new alphabet, containing foreign Serbian letters.

    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2...B4%D0%B5%D0%B2

    Interesting how noone in North Macedonia knows about him and many others like him. They do remember the "bugarski fasistki okupator" as the biggest enemy, but are silent about the murders of VMRO members during Yugoslavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    My paternal ancestors were Patriarchists and never identified as Bulgarians. Our village did not accept the Exarchate and this only changed with the arrival of the Serbs.
    Tell us the name of the village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    If you want to start a off topic banana thread. Then go to Greek section.
    Stop starting threads and speaking about the truth if you can't handle it. Dirty snake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    Trayko Chundev - Macedonian revolutionaire from IMRO, took part of the creation of the new Macedonian country within Yugoslavia and the codification of the official language of the republic. He was killed because he was against the new alphabet, containing foreign Serbian letters.

    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2...B4%D0%B5%D0%B2

    Interesting how noone in North Macedonia knows about him and many others like him. They do remember the "bugarski fasistki okupator" as the biggest enemy, but are silent about the murders of VMRO members during Yugoslavia.

    Yeah. Must say that’s the first time I’ve heard of him. But there’s only a Bulgarian wiki page.

    Macedonians bring up the whole “fashisti bugari”. But isn’t that really what you call the Nazi collaborators? We’re Bulgarians completely Rotorua in Macedonia? Do you have any criticism on Bulgaria’s actions at all.
    Last edited by Vojnik; 01-18-2021 at 02:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Stop starting threads and speaking about the truth if you can't handle it. Dirty snake.
    You have some evil spirit attached to you. Lord have mercy on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Yeah. Must say that’s the first time I’ve heard of him. But there’s only a Bulgarian wiki page.

    Macedonians bring up the whole “fashisti bugari”. But isn’t that really what you call the Nazi collaborators? We’re Bulgarians completely Rotorua in Macedonia? Do you have any criticism on Bulgaria’s actions at all.
    There is also page in Macedonian and it has much more detailed information about the destiny of this person and why exactly he was killed. I just gave the biography of him as an example. There are many people with such destiny.

    Fascism is as bad as communism.

    Communism won after WW2, that's why we view fascism as something bad today, but especially our nation had benefits from it as the national unification became reallity through fascism. During fascism, none of the former/present (back then) members of VMRO were killed or repressed. They only won medals and national recognition for their actions.

    You cannot praise the heroes of the Macedonian struggle against Greeks and Serbs and at the same time be pro-Serbian and anti-Bulgarian (like modern Macedonians).

    That's actually what Bulgaria wants at the moment. North Macedonia to recognize the shared history with Bulgaria and the Bulgarian nation until the end of WW2, because until then, the struggle was Bulgarian.

    It is a real shame for us, here in Bulgaria, that you try to mix our history and try to make connection of it with your Serbo-Macedonistic reallity after WW2. You can claim to be from Mars if you wish, but your new reallity has nothing to do with the old one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Lets make this thread a honest and respectful debate about truth. The truth of today's Macedonian Slavic people.

    As a Christian, i am unable to lie. I seek truth. And so should every other professing Christian.

    Are Macedonian Slavs part of the Bulgarian ethnicity? Or at least, were they once part of it?

    Post information and evidence to the argument you are trying to make.

    Kuzman Shapkarev:


    Macedonians claim Shapkarev to be ethnic Macedonian. But we all know that any Macedonian today espousing his ideas would be condemned and labeled a Bugaroman.

    But then we also have some Macedonian historians who claim the context of the term "Bulgarian" was strictly socio-religious in nature. Dispelling the possibility that it was ethnic.

    Anyway, you get the drift............................................
    You are very ambitions to seek the truth among the trollers

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    From what I have heard people in Macedonia that identify as Bulgarians are treated the same as Trump supporters in the USA. They are demonized and cancelled at every opportunity and most people won't even give them a job.

    Very few of them can make a living there, and are forced to immigrate to Bulgaria or somewhere else.

    So there might be a lot more people in Macedonia who identify with Bulgaria but are not public with it because it can literally ruin their life.

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