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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Because nowhere are we instructed by Jesus or the apostles to pray to Mary. It doesn't scare Satan at all! No wonder he has taken up residence at the Vatican.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    You cannot deny Catholics ascribe some sort of divinity to Mary (Orthodox church too), and call her "theotokos" or something. They pray to Mary and expects her to do miracles for them. Many Catholics feel more comfortable talking to Mary than to Jesus, and go to Mary for protection. You can deny this all you want but I've seen and heard this first hand from Catholics.

    Many ancient cultures had goddess worship, particularly regionally the worship of Ishtar, and she was called various different names in different regions. Ishtar was "Christianized" in order to please ex-heathens in the Roman Empire. They had a need for goddess worship. That is why pictures of Mary often look goddess - like as in the picture you posted.

    Mary is called "Queen of Heaven" by Catholics, when in fact she is nothing of the sort. She is a regular Christian Saint like all of us Christians are. She doesn't receive prayers from believers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    This image with the supposed conversation between Catholic and Protestant is absolutely shameful, full of lies. We don't object to honouring Mary! We honour Mary ourselves because she was blessed among women, and chosen to give birth to our Lord Jesus Christ, and to raise him as a child. That is the greatest honour imaginable! Of all women on earth she was/is the most blessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Exorcisms happen all over the world. I think the practice is a bit outdated, I think it’s more of a psychological phenomena and hysteria rather than evil controlling the body. But I have never witnessed one in person.
    How can exorcisms be outdated? Demons have not all of a sudden become civilized and left people alone On the contrary, I think there is more a need for exorcisms today than ever before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No it's not just a Catholic thing, it is well known among Pentecostals, I have seen it myself. And yes, it is legit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You cannot deny Catholics ascribe some sort of divinity to Mary (Orthodox church too), and call her "theotokos" or something. They pray to Mary and expects her to do miracles for them. Many Catholics feel more comfortable talking to Mary than to Jesus, and go to Mary for protection. You can deny this all you want but I've seen and heard this first hand from Catholics.

    Many ancient cultures had goddess worship, particularly regionally the worship of Ishtar, and she was called various different names in different regions. Ishtar was "Christianized" in order to please ex-heathens in the Roman Empire. They had a need for goddess worship. That is why pictures of Mary often look goddess - like as in the picture you posted.

    Mary is called "Queen of Heaven" by Catholics, when in fact she is nothing of the sort. She is a regular Christian Saint like all of us Christians are. She doesn't receive prayers from believers.
    Some catholics even call Mary "The Mother of God", which is very cringe and wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    How can exorcisms be outdated? Demons have not all of a sudden become civilized and left people alone On the contrary, I think there is more a need for exorcisms today than ever before.
    Haha civilized demons would be something else.
    When I say outdated, in history exorcisms were used mistakenly for diseases such as rabies when proper medicine was needed.

    I believe people can be haunted by demons. I think they take form in depression and mental illness. I’m just not convinced exorcisms are the best way to treat such things.
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    For what it’s worth to any of ya, demons are real (mostly fallen angels and nephilim) and I’ve come up close and personal with that “world”. Reality is sure strange. As a teenager, I had a rather Unitarian, new agey life outlook and that invited a certain element into my company. Thank God Christ freed me from those influences. It’s been a little bit of a wild ride, really.

    On that note, Salvation through Christ is possible to save Any creature....just like he says...I can bear witness to the fact that even the fallen ones may be Saved.
    "3:16 For YHWH so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.."

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