Is Toxic Masculinity a real thing?

[Salty Ears]

Masculinity and Feminism are not equivalent. Masculinity is simply the act of being male (that which feminists are against), Feminism is a political ideology.

When feminists talk about toxic masculinity they're talking about masculinity as a whole, that's why they want to turn little boys into girls.

I understand that they are not equivalents. I guess that males that act like pigs are the result of the collapse of the patriarchal society, now there is no rules for your behavior and you can do everything you want. So feminists are against patriarchy and also against toxic masculinity.

[Creoda]

I guess that males that act like pigs are the result of the collapse of the patriarchal society, now there is no rules for your behavior and you can do everything you want. So feminists are against patriarchy and also against toxic masculinity.

I don't think so. Non-western and non-white men act far more piggish, chauvinistic and abusively towards their women, yet they are very rarely the target of feminists.

[Salty Ears]

I don't think so. Non-western and non-white men act far more piggish, chauvinistic and abusively towards their women, yet they are very rarely the target of feminists.

Yes, but in such non-western non-white societies also women could be chauvinistic and abusively. For example mother of the husband or elder wife can make life of young wife like torture. I guess it is about not only toxic masculinity but about whole level of culture and traditions. Also we can see cultural regress, years ago simple people could see political, military, spiritual nobility as an example to follow. Now everything is sad with it. So i see reason of toxic masculinity in this too. And because that family dont defend their women - the collapse of the patriarchal society.

[Getae]

Toxic masculinity is anything that doesn’t serve the collective female interest. It’s anything that’s anti-simp.

[Radimir]

Yeah, it's real but it's mostly found in the lower class or common folk.

[Getae]

Yeah, it's real but it's mostly found in the lower class or common folk.

High class elves like you don’t have it?

[Celestia]

As real as toxic feminism

[Radimir]

High class elves like you don’t have it?

Nope!

[Getae]

Nope!

Can you be my little elf trap or you don’t roll like that?