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Thread: Phentoype overview and hair colour diversity among 800 Andean Colombians. National average?

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    Hi everyone!

    I was a bit bored and I decided to do an exhaustive but at the same time entertaining job.
    I counted 745-785 kids, 52 teachers and 3 priests from a complete Colombian school breakin down each racial group in accurate numbers/percentages

    I Initially counted first 5 rows of students, and then divide the result per 5 to get an accuarate average of those five.

    Finally multipling by total number of rows to get an approximate total number of the kids and teens there (counting staff by separate).

    Here the link

    http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/144578

    (Note that this is a personal "study" trying to be as the most objetive as posible, but I can't be 100% accurate.

    Secondly what I did was to count each minor ethnic group (Whites,blacks and amerindians) individually so that was x200 easier and 100% accurate numbers


    #Native Americans (9), Asians (1), SSA (1), Zamboids (4)

    ------Hair Colour distribution-------

    *1 dark brown hair
    *14 Dark hair

    (All Examples taken directly from the link)






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    #Indomestizos(~30-35) Balanced Mestizos(~390-405) and harnizos/castizos(240-260) (either birracial or trirracial)

    --------Hair Colour Distribution--------

    ~70% Dark
    ~30% Dark Brown

    Graphic examples














    # Whites (101 kids and 3 adults)

    -----Hair Colour------

    *63 have dark brown haired
    *28 have light Brown or "castaño"
    *12 have blonde/golden hair
    * 1 have reddish hair

    I am gonna post varied pigmentation photos of what I considered white

























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    Conclusion

    Ethnic distribution

    -Mestizos(of all kind): (82,5%-87,5)
    -Whites: (12-13%)
    -Asians and Native Americans: 2%
    -Black and Zamboid: (0,5%)

    Agree or disagree?
    Last edited by Lozano; 01-23-2021 at 09:52 AM.

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    That ethnic distribution looks more correct for Boyaca than for all of Colombia combined. And where is the school located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    That ethnic distribution looks more correct for Boyaca than for all of Colombia combined. And where is the school located?
    The school is Located un Fugagasugá (Cundinamarca), between Girardot and Bogotá.
    A town that may have recieved 0 european inmigration in 200 years

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    The 'whites' are arguably about castizo range on average (like 75-80% euro), some (or most) do show clearly native influence even if depigmented, some do look white though.
    But I think it isn't the whitest place in Colombia. I was expecting more black admixed people too. I know Colombia should be at least 10% SSA as whole. But maybe they're concentrated in the coast I think.

    In the picture they look mestizo as a whole just as the N/W Mexicans and Chileans, 50-55% Euro, 40%-45% Amerindian and residual SSA (like 5%), about my estimate.

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    Maybe off topic, but how amerindian and euro are Cesar, Santander and Norte de Santander? Perhaps a thread about those departamentos would be interesante.

    Look how nice this map:
    https://www.touropia.com/gfx/b/2019/09/colombia.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR3226 View Post
    The 'whites' are arguably about castizo range on average (like 75-80% euro), some (or most) do show clearly native influence even if depigmented, some do look white though.
    But I think it isn't the whitest place in Colombia. I was expecting more black admixed people too. I know Colombia should be at least 10% SSA as whole. But maybe they're concentrated in the coast I think.

    In the picture they look mestizo as a whole just as the N/W Mexicans and Chileans, 50-55% Euro, 40%-45% Amerindian and residual SSA (like 5%), about my estimate.
    Most of Andean Colombia (where more than 70% of the Colombian population lives, is known for its lack of SSA admixture. Most of the Colombian Andes are almost exclusively mestizo/white, in case you didn't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR3226 View Post
    The 'whites' are arguably about castizo range on average (like 75-80% euro), some (or most) do show clearly native influence even if depigmented, some do look white though.
    But I think it isn't the whitest place in Colombia. I was expecting more black admixed people too. I know Colombia should be at least 10% SSA as whole. But maybe they're concentrated in the coast I think.

    In the picture they look mestizo as a whole just as the N/W Mexicans and Chileans, 50-55% Euro, 40%-45% Amerindian and residual SSA (like 5%), about my estimate.
    I disagree. I don't see the Amerindian in the "whites" at all, if it's there it's not apparent to my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSR3226 View Post
    The 'whites' are arguably about castizo range on average (like 75-80% euro), some (or most) do show clearly native influence even if depigmented, some do look white though.
    But I think it isn't the whitest place in Colombia. I was expecting more black admixed people too. I know Colombia should be at least 10% SSA as whole. But maybe they're concentrated in the coast I think.

    In the picture they look mestizo as a whole just as the N/W Mexicans and Chileans, 50-55% Euro, 40%-45% Amerindian and residual SSA (like 5%), about my estimate.
    I have to agree with Luso in first part.

    I personally don't see a remarckable amerindian
    countribution to be something over 15-20% of their genetics. Although I don't don't deny there might be some hidden euromestizos... I don't believe they conform more than 2% of the white percentage.

    In the other hand, like alnorte clearly exposed, Andean-inner regiones of Colombia as you can see, black SSA admixture is barely noticeable. Only on the coast and some urban areas of big cities yo can find an Strong SSA input in genetics.

    I agree with percentages at the end, the people show in average a balanced leaning to harnizo range.

    Really interesting taking into account the town ("Fugagasugá"), have recieved so little inmigration over the years, even has an amerindia name. And yess he is not even close of the most euro regions inside the country.

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    It is surprising (for me) that in the Andes there are "White" types (more castizo or even mestizo than White anyways). For me, in the White pictures I can only say that they are White, 3 of them in the 2º row, and 2-3 here and there, but for being in the Andes, it is surprising that these light types exist. I thought all andinos were amerindian or at most mestizos.

    And it is also curious to see a clear mestizo being a redhead. I only see 1 blonde (2º row, 2º).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozano View Post
    I have to agree with Luso in first part.

    I personally don't see a remarckable amerindian
    countribution to be something over 15-20% of their genetics. Although I don't don't deny there might be some hidden euromestizos... I don't believe they conform more than 2% of the white percentage.
    No, they arent "white". They are mainly harnizo or some of them castizos. None of them can pass as spaniards.

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