Joe Biden and Ireland

[Grace O'Malley]

Biden is not larping though. He has strong connections to Ireland and still keeps in touch with family there.

By heritage, Joe Biden is roughly five-eighths Irish. His mother’s entire family tree traces to Ireland with ancestors named Arthurs, Blewitt, Boyle, Roche, Scanlon and Stanton accompanying her Finnegan kin. The last one-eighth comes from his father’s side, which contributed the Hanafee name.

Most of the immigrants in his family were born in the early decades of the 19th century and made the journey to America mid-century, so the Famine was undoubtedly a key factor in their departure. With a couple of exceptions, they converged almost immediately on Scranton, Pennsylvania. By the time the future Vice President joined the family, they had been settled there for roughly 70 to 90 years, so it’s little wonder that Scranton features so prominently in his narrative.

https://smolenyak.medium.com/joe-bid...s-64135cc97fd7

There is nothing wrong with him feeling affinity with his Irish roots.

[Grace O'Malley]

It's all about being disingenuous and larpy about 1776. Even with all immigration going on, ancestry from Britain remain among the largest (if not the largest one there) still. That, plus the anti-white narrative, and given Irish people's contentious history with Britain, they sort of fill a pseudo aggrieved minority position, so it is as cool to claim being one of them as it would be claiming being a Cherokee and/or other Amerindian type.

Irish are also not considered a "minority" group in the US and have never received any help or positive discrimination since they arrived in the US.

[Creoda]

Just another Plastic Paddy Yank, probably his only contemporary connection is giving money when they were still collecting for the IRA in America in the 70s/80s/90s.

[Davystayn]

I'm sure I read that only 3% of Americans today have ancestry from 1776 and those that did would have been mainly brit ancestry as well, both sides in the conflict were basically of the same stock.

It is good that successsive US Presidents are proud of their Irish roots but is a tad irritating when people emphasise a part of their ancestry to the detriment of the rest of it, particularly if it is politically charged, if it isnt no problem.

I think Obama, Reagan, Clinton all did the Ireland homeland tour, I expect Biden will as well. Biden is an english surnane though
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iri...irish-name.amp

[Andullero]

Irish are also not considered a "minority" group in the US and have never received any help or positive discrimination since they arrived in the US.

No, but the fact is that them (you) are considered a "exploited by colonialism" group, and given the cultural accolades that come with such under the narrative.

[Andullero]

I'm sure I read that only 3% of Americans today have ancestry from 1776 and those that did would have been mainly brit ancestry as well, both sides in the conflict were basically of the same stock.

It is good that successsive US Presidents are proud of their Irish roots but is a tad irritating when people emphasise a part of their ancestry to the detriment of the rest of it, particularly if it is politically charged, if it isnt no problem.

I think Obama, Reagan, Clinton all did the Ireland homeland tour, I expect Biden will as well. Biden is an english surnane though
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iri...irish-name.amp

I would understand his posturing if he: a. Was a bastard (as in, out of wedlock child) or b. His parents had a contentious divorce. Neither one or the other is Biden's case (in fact, his Anglo father was very much present and was seemingly a much positive force in his life). For all its feminazi posturing, the West is still a normative patriarchal system (as in, families follow the father, surname and otherwise) so only political posturing and pandering can explain his and other people's position about this in the US.

Political posturing, pandering, and metapolitically disadvantaged position of the former WASP normativity.

[Grace O'Malley]

I'm sure I read that only 3% of Americans today have ancestry from 1776 and those that did would have been mainly brit ancestry as well, both sides in the conflict were basically of the same stock.

It is good that successsive US Presidents are proud of their Irish roots but is a tad irritating when people emphasise a part of their ancestry to the detriment of the rest of it, particularly if it is politically charged, if it isnt no problem.

I think Obama, Reagan, Clinton all did the Ireland homeland tour, I expect Biden will as well. Biden is an english surnane though
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iri...irish-name.amp

I know Biden is an English surname. Biden's full ethnicity breakdown is below.

Ethnicity: Irish (62.5%), as well as English, German, and remote French, Scottish, and Welsh

President Biden is of approximately five eighths Irish descent (62.5% Irish). His father was of English, Irish, German, and distant French, Scottish, and Welsh, descent, with his German roots from, for example, his Bomberger, Launderslager, and Shoemaker lines. He had roots in Maryland going back to the mid 1600s. Vice President Biden’s mother’s ancestry was entirely Irish.

https://ethnicelebs.com/joe-biden

His majority ancestry though is Irish so it's not surprising that is the ancestry he mostly identifies with. It's not like he is identifying with an ancestry he doesn't have or an ancestry that is a tiny percent.

[Faklon]

It's a long way from China to Ireland but we trust in old Joe to make the connection true.

[Grace O'Malley]

No, but the fact is that them (you) are considered a "exploited by colonialism" group, and given the cultural accolades that come with such under the narrative.

So Joe Biden identifying with his Irish ancestry is now political? He is majority Irish ancestry so I don't understand the cynicism that people like you and others are expressing here? If he was mostly Czech and was a Czech-American would people be using the same argument?

I think it is great that he feels such a strong connection to Ireland.

[Davystayn]

I'm pleased Biden is proud of his Irish roots, this proves his eye is on this part of the world, it means he is an Atlanticist.

Hopefully as he is interested he might some research and see how closely related irish are to brits and are often interrelated (like himself) and not start pointing fingers.

Kennedy got on with Macmillan even though they were poles apart