Joe Biden and Ireland

**Andullero** · 01-23-2021, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

So Joe Biden identifying with his Irish ancestry is now political? He is majority Irish ancestry so I don't understand the cynicism that people like you and others are expressing here?

If he was mostly Czech and was a Czech-American would people be using the same argument?

It has been (meta)political for a long time, sis. It is a way to countersignal Anglosaxondom more than anything.

But don't feel too bad about it. The whole hyphenated-American thing is as well.

**Grace O'Malley** · 01-23-2021, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Davystayn

I'm pleased Biden is proud of his Irish roots, this proves his eye is on this part of the world, it means he is an Atlanticist.

Hopefully as he is interested he might some research and see how closely related irish are to brits and are often interrelated (like himself) and not start pointing fingers.

Kennedy got on with Macmillan even though they were poles apart

What do you mean by "not start pointing fingers"? I'm sure he will start building ties with the EU that were fractured under Donald Trump but Britain and the US have always been allies so I don't think there will be any problems.

**Jana** · 01-23-2021, 03:18 PM

He's a fraud and he showed that with his selection of tons of Jews and POC with extreme marxist/globalist views in his administration.

Trump administration was full of Scots and Irish unlike Biden's, including Trump VP Mike Pence who is much more Irish than Biden (he's over 80% Irish while Biden is above 60%), and who also took pride in his Irish roots but when he visited now cucked Ireland there were protests against him and Irish gay PM invited his homo partner to meet and provoke Pence because they knew about his deeply religious and conservative views.

So I'm not suprised Ireland supports ultra liberal "Irish" like Biden and snubbed conservative Irish like Pence.

I just find it funny how he boast about his Catholic faith while filling his administration with people who have completely un-Christian anti-white views. He said he supports abortion and wants non white majority America so I'm not suprised. Sick.

**Grace O'Malley** · 01-23-2021, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Andullero

It has been (meta)political for a long time, sis. It is a way to countersignal Anglosaxondom more than anything.

But don't feel too bad about it. The whole hyphenated-American thing is as well.

I'm not sure what point your are trying to make? It's not like he hasn't Irish ancestry. It's also not like the Americans have any animosity to the English. Biden is a Catholic and from Scranton which has a lot of Irish-descent people. I don't see Biden identifying with Irish as a countersignal to Anglo-Saxondom. If he was only a small fraction Irish that would be different but he has strong ties to his Irish Catholic roots. I find it bizarre the way people are trying to make out he is identifying as Irish because of reasons other than Irish being a large amount of his ancestry and culture.

**Davystayn** · 01-23-2021, 03:40 PM

I think it is more about the overly romantic o'rish thing, you never see Presidents visiting pubs in rural Leicestershire or touring the Rhineland.

**Creoda** · 01-23-2021, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Andullero

It has been (meta)political for a long time, sis. It is a way to countersignal Anglosaxondom more than anything.

But don't feel too bad about it. The whole hyphenated-American thing is as well.

Exactly, his pointed 'Irishness' is a rejection of 'WASPness', in line with the politics of his party. Being a plain white guy/WASP is problematic on the left, and while he can't be a POC, being Irish is apparently the next best thing

**Davystayn** · 01-23-2021, 03:44 PM

Australians don't seem to go as doey eyed over irish ancestry somehow

**Grace O'Malley** · 01-23-2021, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Exactly, his pointed 'Irishness' is a rejection of 'WASPness', in line with the politics of his party. Being a plain white guy/WASP is problematic on the left, and while he can't be a POC, being Irish is apparently the next best thing

So are you ignoring the fact this his majority ancestry is in fact Irish and he is also Catholic? It would be strange if he identified with being a WASP don't you think?

He can't reject WASPness when he wasn't reared as one.

This is an interesting article about Joe Biden's Catholic faith.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...ief-joe-biden/