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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    I noticed that Iranics from Caspian have a lot of Gedrosian, but this one has nearly no steppe admixture. Is that normal for them?
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    I guess due to environment they have been a relatively isolated location which brings them closest to Chalcolithic Iranians and the least mixed (Except in recent history with re-settled Caucasian people in that region)
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    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    Have Iranian_Mazandarani some Turkic admixture like Iranian_Fars in vahaduo?
    No, it should theoretically be the least mixed (iirc the average has less than 0.5% Mongoloid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCat View Post
    His close match with some European admixture??

    Y-DNA: J-L26

    Population
    Gedrosia 6.93 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 4 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.44 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 16.12 Pct
    North_European 7.04 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African 3.07 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 20.93 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 41.47 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -
    As far i know there were some Greek settlements in Levant, also a lot of Greeks migrated to this region in Ottoman era. Some Levantines got it from Iranics(Kurds for example) but this one has nor Iranic admixture. This person must have some Greek ancestry.

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    A brand new Iranian (?) kit, uploaded today
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    Gedrosia 27.36 Pct
    Siberian 0.95 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.68 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 6.49 Pct
    North_European 4.54 Pct

    South_Asian 6.48 Pct
    East_African 2.77 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 17.15 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 33.37 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.21 Pct

    Distance to: Amer
    7.33641602 Kurd_Sorani
    7.35153725 Iranian_Lur
    8.05857928 Yazidi
    8.39757108 Turkmen_Iraq
    9.64572444 Iranian_Khorasan
    9.74861529 Kurd_Kurmanji
    9.78003579 Kurd_Adygea
    11.20010268 Iraqi_Baghdad
    11.33542236 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    11.48174203 Arab_Iran

    Target: Amer
    Distance: 1.9166% / 1.91660327 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    32.2 Iranian_Lur
    26.5 Arab_Iran
    17.7 Balochi
    16.7 Kurd_Sorani
    5.4 Parsi_India
    1.5 Somali

    Target: Amer
    Distance: 2.6709% / 2.67088370 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    37.6 Iranian_Lur
    31.8 Arab_Iran
    18.8 Iranian_Bandari
    11.8 Parsi_India

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Yes
    I guess due to environment they have been a relatively isolated location which brings them closest to Chalcolithic Iranians and the least mixed (Except in recent history with re-settled Caucasian people in that region)
    You can get a ROUGH estimate of how much Steppe or ENF or WHG or E Asian each test subject has by making a table like this which covers the 12 components of the calculator

    For example for the Mazendaranian test subject. I didn't have time to check the calculator spreadsheet so these are just my guesses


    Component Component references (from spreadsheet) Test subject Percent STEPPE % of references Test subject Percent STEPPE ENF % of references Test subject Percent ENF WHG % of references Test subject Percent WHG BASAL % of references Test subject Percent BASAL E. Asian % of references Test subject Percent E.ASIAN
    CAUCASIAN Abkhasians, Georgians, Armenians, etc 37.05% 20% 7.40% 40% 14.80% 10% 3.70% 20% 7.40% 5% 1.90%
    GEDROSIAN Brahui, Baloch, etc 33.58% 25% 8.40% 20% 6.70% 7% 2.40% 15% 5.00% 10% 3.30%
    SW ASIAN Jordanians, etc










    ATLANTIC-MED











    N EUROPEAN Estonians, etc







































    TOTAL STEPPE
    TOTAL ENF
    TOTAL WHG
    TOTAL BASAL
    TOTAL E ASIAN
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    1 days old new match from Turkey (name), but likely Pontic (Total Mongoloid = 0.28%)

    Population
    Gedrosia 16.44 Pct
    Siberian 0.28 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.97 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 15.23 Pct
    North_European 2.3 Pct

    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 10.23 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 54.55 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Sadikoglu
    Distance: 2.6563% / 2.65626350 | R3P
    54.6 Georgian_Adjara
    35.4 Greek_Pontus
    10.0 Sardinian

    Distance to: Sadikoglu
    4.58766825 Greek_Pontus
    5.60278502 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    6.80540961 Hemshin
    7.17211963 Laz
    8.35130529 Armenian_West
    8.37198304 Armenian_East
    9.44351100 Georgian_Adjara
    10.13975345 Turk_Ahiska
    10.69613014 Greek_Cappadocia
    11.75287624 Turk_East
    12.17073128 Assyrian_West
    12.45994783 Assyrian_North
    12.76955755 Assyrian_South
    12.98616572 Azeri_Jew
    13.19854537 Udi
    13.30428127 Georgian_Imereti
    13.43428450 Georgian
    15.11469153 Georgian_Gurian
    15.59720808 Nusayri_Turkey
    15.70264309 Georgian_Mingrelian
    15.83261507 Kurdish_Jew
    16.32004596 Iraqi_Jew
    16.47173943 Abkhazian
    16.68820542 Greek_Cypriot
    16.93259578 Mandean
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
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    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
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    Another relatively new kit (3 days) West Iranic. Results say Kurdish, name is giving Iraqi/Syrian vibes.

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    Gedrosia 26.94 Pct
    Siberian 1.32 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.47 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 8.45 Pct
    North_European 8.19 Pct

    South_Asian 2.87 Pct
    East_African 1.14 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 11.96 Pct
    East_Asian 1.28 Pct
    Caucasus 37.38 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Hiwa
    Distance: 1.4066% / 1.40657276 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    78.0 Yazidi
    9.7 Iranian_Khorasan
    9.3 Lezgin
    2.4 Tajik_Mountain
    0.6 Spanish_Basque

    Distance to: Hiwa
    3.38698981 Yazidi
    4.47324267 Kurd_Adygea
    4.53339828 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.48010949 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    5.76426058 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.76428660 Kurd_Sorani
    5.95671890 Iranian_Lur
    5.95671890 Lur_Iran
    6.04871061 Zaza
    6.93114709 Azerbaijani
    7.68187477 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.87701720 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.01622105 Iranian_Khorasan
    8.52339134 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    9.66724366 Iranian_Mazandaran
    9.83010173 Turk_Southeast
    10.34669029 Udi
    12.58945988 Turk_East
    12.83317186 Iraqi_Baghdad
    12.91646236 Turk_Central_East
    13.39244937 Turk_South
    14.52147720 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    14.54080122 Turk_Central_West
    15.09700633 Mandean
    15.73295586 Azeri_Jew
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
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    Lol, Zoro has briefly destroyed the font on the previous page

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Lol, Zoro has briefly destroyed the font on the previous page
    Who knows, maybe the Qadm stuff is useful
    if only I could read what was on the page after Zoro posts....
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
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    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
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    Iranian name and surname. Maybe Talysh or has a distant Caucasian ancestry? I don't know much about Iranians so I'll leave it to you.


    Y-DNA: G-P287


    Population
    Gedrosia 25.76 Pct
    Siberian 1.14 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.6 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 5.39 Pct
    North_European 7.23 Pct
    South_Asian 4.32 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.57 Pct
    East_Asian 1.02 Pct
    Caucasus 40.36 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 1.61 Pct


    Distance to: momtahan
    2.76112296 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    3.70249916 Kurd_Adygea
    4.58912846 Yazidi
    4.60516015 Kurd_Kurmanji
    4.79269235 Iranian_Lur
    4.79269235 Lur_Iran
    5.00998004 Zaza
    5.10188201 Kurd_Sorani
    6.02669893 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.70273079 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.72299165 Azerbaijani
    7.92672694 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.31003008 Iranian_Mazandaran
    8.85321411 Udi
    9.25294548 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    10.08965807 Iranian_Khorasan
    10.67645540 Turk_Southeast
    11.36695650 Turk_East
    12.34805653 Iraqi_Baghdad
    13.41939641 Turk_Central_East
    13.62375132 Mandean
    13.88044308 Azeri_Jew
    14.29655553 Turk_South
    14.64240076 Assyrian_North
    14.74999322 Armenian_East


    Target: momtahan
    Distance: 1.5749% / 1.57486667 | R2P

    89.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    10.2 Iranian_Bandari


    Target: momtahan
    Distance: 0.9466% / 0.94663802 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    78.1 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.6 Iranian_Mazandaran
    6.8 Kurd_Sorani
    6.0 Parsi_India
    1.5 Yoruba



    Without Talysh reference


    Target: momtahan
    Distance: 2.2286% / 2.22860645 | R2P

    80.9 Lur_Iran
    19.1 Circassian


    Target: momtahan
    Distance: 1.8133% / 1.81332323 | ADC: 0.5x RC

    40.7 Kurd_Sorani
    28.2 Iranian_Mazandaran
    12.5 Karachay
    12.3 Lur_Iran
    6.3 Azerbaijani_Turkey

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