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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesoman View Post
    Kurdish Jews are a subgroup of Mizrahi Jews who have lived in the modern day Kurdistan region of Iraq for thousands of years. Persian (Iranian) Jews differ from ancient Babylonian Jews, therefore they aren't identical and interchangeable. All mizrahi jews have a common babylonian Jewish ancestry, but all of them attained different admixtures in different quantities.
    Very true. Caucasus Jews have clearly absorbed more CHG-rich populations over time. Bukharians seem to be almost like Iranian converts or something along those lines. Iranian Jews w/ Iranian admixture etc. I think only Iraqi Jews seems to have retained most of their ancient Babylonian/Mesopotamian profile but then again, we have yet to excavate any ancient Mesopotamian samples so I'm only speculating.

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    That's not Gedmatch though. We don't know if all the samples making up that average are unmixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    I think only Iraqi Jews seems to have retained most of their ancient Babylonian/Mesopotamian profile but then again, we have yet to excavate any ancient Mesopotamian samples so I'm only speculating.
    The purest Middle Eastern Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That's not Gedmatch though. We don't know if all the samples making up that average are unmixed.
    That could be true for a lot of these references though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The purest Middle Eastern Jews.
    They are certainly the most Levant-shifted. Almost equidistant to Assyrians and Northern Levantines.

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    Dodecad k12b west&central asian results vol 5. Would be a good addition to the forum.

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    [QUOTE=FinalFlash;7315108. Bukharians seem to be almost like Iranian converts or something along those lines.[/QUOTE]

    Target: Uzbekistan_Jews
    Distance: 0.1819% / 0.18185483
    21.1 Maykop_Novosvobodnaya
    14.3 İkiztepe_LC
    12.7 Ebla_EMBA
    9.0 Levant_BA
    8.2 Seh_Gabi_Iran_LN
    8.0 Arslantepe_LC
    7.2 Ashkelon_LBA
    5.2 Ganj_Dareh_Iran_recent_1430-1485_AD
    2.9 Ganj_Dareh_Iran_N
    2.6 Eastern_Scythian
    2.5 Seh_Gabi_Iran_ChL
    2.3 Alalakh_MLBA_o
    1.1 Beaker_Central_Europe
    0.9 Yamnaya
    0.8 Armenia_LBA
    0.6 Alalakh_MLBA
    0.5 I6626
    0.1 Udosolovo_Ingria_Russia_IA

    They don't seem to be almost Iranian converts. They have additional Iranian admixture, but they are too close to Assyrians, other Mizrahi Jews and Armenians to be mostly Iranian Genetically.

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    Azerbaijani (turkish speaking) from Sheki


    Gedrosian: 19.60
    Siberian: 0.00
    Northwest_African: 0.53
    Southeast_Asian: 0.80
    Atlantic_Med: 8.57
    North_European: 10.33
    South_Asian 0.86
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 9.82
    East_Asian: 1.11
    Caucasian: 48.38
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Azeri_Sheki
    3.92782382 Udi_Azerbaijan
    4.81734367 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
    5.39505329 Turk_Ahiska
    5.48285510 Turk_East
    6.81969941 Armenian_East
    9.46105702 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    9.53186236 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    9.78147228 Adyghe
    9.82007128 Dersim
    9.82609281 Azerbaijani_Republic
    10.13312390 Abkhazian
    10.18609837 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    10.49902376 Armenian_West
    10.55454405 Hemshin
    10.64911264 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    10.65324364 Ossetian_South
    10.72858332 Ossetian
    10.91939101 Laz
    11.10134226 Turk_Central_East
    11.31084877 Greek_Pontus
    11.32472958 Kurd_Kurmanji
    11.43663849 Azerbaijani_Iran
    11.85271277 Ingush
    12.04706603 Circassian
    12.19351057 Turk_Southeast

    Target: Azeri_Sheki
    Distance: 1.4019% / 1.40187392 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    33.7 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
    25.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
    24.0 Turk_East
    16.7 Adyghe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Azerbaijani (turkish speaking) from Sheki


    Gedrosian: 19.60
    Siberian: 0.00
    Northwest_African: 0.53
    Southeast_Asian: 0.80
    Atlantic_Med: 8.57
    North_European: 10.33
    South_Asian 0.86
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 9.82
    East_Asian: 1.11
    Caucasian: 48.38
    SSA: 0.00
    Fascinating! I think this is record Caucasus for Azerbaijanis and even higher than the Udi average.
    It is worth noting that the person is partially from Ağvanlar quarter of Sheki. In some (I think Armenian) sources the Caucasian Albanian state is called Aghvan. Don't know if there is a relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesoman View Post
    No they are not. Neither are Iranian and Kurdish jews the same.
    Kurdish Jews from Erbil circa 1940s.




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