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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, I posted a Dagestani with zero SW Asian yesterday or two days ago.
    Yep, you are right )) Slipped my attention.
    Overall, as you said, the whole mountainous Dagestan has high degree of inbreeding/endogamy.
    Somehow similar thing, but on a smaller scale, I have seen in Khinalug,Azerbaijan. People look alike, have very similar bone structure, jawline, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Yep, you are right )) Slipped my attention.
    Overall, as you said, the whole mountainous Dagestan is super inbred.
    Somehow similar thing, but on a smaller scale, I have seen in Khinalug,Azerbaijan. People look alike, have very similar bone structure, jawline, etc.
    When Balanovsky found a single y haplogroup in 99% (!) of 65 individuals, is it really surprising?

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    I never would say anything against Daghestanis, 1 of them are equivalent to 50 or 100, he would easily beat them up to death easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    When Balanovsky found a single y haplogroup in 99% (!) of 65 individuals, is it really surprising?
    What ethnic group are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    What ethnic group are you talking about?
    Dagestani (Kubachians)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Dagestani (Kubachians)
    They are sub-ethnos of Dargins isolated to few villages. So it makes sense that they are so homogeneous.
    When it comes to relatively larger groups, one can see that Avars, Dargins and Ingush (I know they are not in Dagestan but still) don't have much haplogroup diversity.
    I think in Yusunbayev's work Dargins scored like 90% J1, although in later studies they also scored some Rs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Dagestani (Kubachians)
    They are a Dargin subgroup. Kubachi is just a damn village, a few thousand people if not less.

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    Azerbaijani from Sheki. We might be witnessing a Trabzon/Erzurum like scenario here.
    Y-DNA: H-M69
    Mt-DNA: R1a


    Gedrosia 22.16 Pct
    Siberian 0.98 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.71 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.74 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 8.59 Pct
    North_European 9.77 Pct
    South_Asian 1.41 Pct
    East_African 2.02 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 10.93 Pct
    East_Asian 0.37 Pct
    Caucasus 43.32 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Azerbaijani
    3.78530052 Udi_Azerbaijan
    5.76777253 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.83818465 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.07355744 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.17294905 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.21539218 Turk_East
    6.74237347 Azerbaijani
    7.05328292 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.89126733 Yazidi_Kurd
    8.60611992 Turk_Southeast
    8.89142846 Kurd_Sorani
    9.26711390 Turkmen_Iraq
    9.47872354 Turk_Central_East
    9.65877321 Kurd_Feyli
    9.98415244 Armenian_East
    10.40169698 Iranian_Lur
    10.74748343 Turk_Ahiska
    11.44470620 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    11.49962173 Turk_South
    11.86607770 Adyghe
    11.94283049 Ingush
    12.21253864 Azeri_Jew
    12.21456917 Turk_Central_West
    12.25680627 Armenian_West
    12.50072798 Iranian_Fars

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    From Teheran (I asume ancestry from Southern Ardabil but cannot confirm):



    Gedrosian: 19.87
    Siberian: 2.35
    Northwest_African: 0.65
    Southeast_Asian: 1.57
    Atlantic_Med: 9.27
    North_European: 7.85
    South_Asian 1.55
    East_African 1.36
    Southwest_Asian: 12.46
    East_Asian: 1.86
    Caucasian: 41.22
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Teheran_Khalkhal
    3.06846867 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    3.13071877 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
    3.86799690 Azerbaijani_Iran
    4.12944306 Azerbaijani
    4.75230470 Turk_Southeast
    5.40279557 Turk_East
    5.45959705 Azerbaijani_Northwest
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    6.10625908 Udi_Azerbaijan
    6.25212764 Turk_Central_East
    6.56607189 Azerbaijani_North
    6.80663647 Turkmen_Iraq
    6.99807831 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.59227239 Yazidi_Kurd
    8.14472836 Turk_South
    8.27647268 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    8.82795560 Kurd_Sorani
    8.82946771 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    9.10861131 Turk_Central_West
    9.99992000 Kurd_Feyli
    10.17173535 Armenian_East
    10.22975073 Iranian_Lur
    10.26147163 Iraqi_Baghdad
    10.75073021 Azeri_Jew
    11.27106916 Assyrian_North

    Target: Teheran_Khalkhal
    Distance: 1.5916% / 1.59160465 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    48.1 Azerbaijani_Iran
    37.2 Turk_East
    14.7 Turk_Southeast
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    2 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Greek_Pontus @ 2,217
    3 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_Ahiska @ 2,293

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Azerbaijani from Sheki. We might be witnessing a Trabzon/Erzurum like scenario here.
    Y-DNA: H-M69
    Mt-DNA: R1a


    Gedrosia 22.16 Pct
    Siberian 0.98 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.71 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.74 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 8.59 Pct
    North_European 9.77 Pct
    South_Asian 1.41 Pct
    East_African 2.02 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 10.93 Pct
    East_Asian 0.37 Pct
    Caucasus 43.32 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Azerbaijani
    3.78530052 Udi_Azerbaijan
    5.76777253 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.83818465 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.07355744 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.17294905 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.21539218 Turk_East
    6.74237347 Azerbaijani
    7.05328292 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.89126733 Yazidi_Kurd
    8.60611992 Turk_Southeast
    8.89142846 Kurd_Sorani
    9.26711390 Turkmen_Iraq
    9.47872354 Turk_Central_East
    9.65877321 Kurd_Feyli
    9.98415244 Armenian_East
    10.40169698 Iranian_Lur
    10.74748343 Turk_Ahiska
    11.44470620 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    11.49962173 Turk_South
    11.86607770 Adyghe
    11.94283049 Ingush
    12.21253864 Azeri_Jew
    12.21456917 Turk_Central_West
    12.25680627 Armenian_West
    12.50072798 Iranian_Fars
    How about Tabasarans? Are they closer to Avars, Kumys or Azeri from Dagestan?

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