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    Quote Originally Posted by Buusra View Post
    in my research it is most probably due to the Avar dissemination in Europe and I have high matches in Catalonia and Basque too. If you remember my Slavic components are high as well, no wonder
    I don't think the Avars were ever present in Europe or outside the North Caucasus. And that's not really Slavic either. Dagestan is the most European HG part of the Caucasus, I think that's because of the close proximity to the Eurasian Steppe which is just north of the Caspian Sea. On the other hand, the Northwestern Caucasus has a stronger Anatolian/Black Sea affinity but also stronger Turkic influence.


    Kalmykia and Astrakhan were part of the Indo-European/Yamnaya sphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCat View Post
    I dont know, on MDLP they can be modelled as Half Pontic Greek

    Target: Azov_Greek
    Distance: 1.0281% / 1.02811791 | R3P
    50.6 Greek_Trabzon
    41.7 Bulgarian
    7.7 Nogai


    Target: Azov_Greek
    Distance: 0.8559% / 0.85586885 | R3P
    46.7 Greek_Trabzon
    34.1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    19.2 Croat
    As far i know they speak a Pontic dialect, so there must be a relation between both groups. I don’t think that ancient Greek settlers did successfully left genetic traces there, its more Byzantine/Trebizond heritage. These results perfectly reflect the history of Crimea and Azov Greeks.

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    Highly unusual result from North-West Azerbaijan. The person is of Ayrum ancestry.
    This man's closest match is Azerbaijanis of Turkey, but even they are rather distant at 5.4.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Hidden Azerbaijanis...
    I am not sure but i think we are descendants of Aqqoyunlu and Qaraqoyunlu Turkmens like our Azerbaijan Turk and Iranian Turk(Turkmen, Iranian Azerbaijan) brothers
    Just we migrated to western central anatolia later.
    Last edited by Altaylı; 02-22-2021 at 08:10 PM.

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    3.22862657 72.80% Anatolian + 27.20% KAZ_Karakhanid
    3.25806017 71.80% Anatolian + 28.20% KAZ_Kimak

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    Finally i found an Aksaray/Ağaçören result i have ancestors from Aksaray/ağaçören(an ancestor from mother side from afshar village, and an ancestor from paternal side from Abalı village(Abalı village is very close to şereflikoçhisar even i didn't know abalı counts as an ağaçören village lol)]

    Gedrosia 18.85 Pct
    Siberian 3.88 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.52
    Southeast_Asian 0.57 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 12.86 Pct
    North_European 9.85 Pct
    South_Asian 2.06 Pct
    East_African 0.33 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 9.43 Pct
    East_Asian 6.83 Pct
    Caucasus 34.81Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Ağaçörenli
    Distance: 0.9896% / 0.98963912 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    72.9 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.9 Turkmen_TM
    7.5 Spanish_Basque
    7.0 Turk_Southwest
    3.6 Japanese
    0.1 Sardinian

    Distance to: Ağaçörenli
    5.60674594 Turk_South
    6.25558151 Turk_Southwest
    6.26991228 Turk_Central_West
    6.90641731 Turk_Southeast
    7.08734083 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    7.20315903 Azerbaijani
    7.32144111 Turk_Central_East
    7.49992667 Turk_West_BlackSea
    7.91820055 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.27447279 Turk_Northwest
    8.84227346 Azerbaijani_Iran
    11.31918283 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    12.04832768 Kurd_Kurmanji
    12.72087654 Iraq_Turkmen
    12.92286346 Zaza
    12.97118345 Yazidi
    13.17329875 Turk_East
    13.60240052 Iran_Khorasan
    13.66511617 Kurd_Adygea
    13.66817106 Kurd_Sorani
    13.89317458 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    14.07015991 Turkmen_TM
    14.29777605 Turkmen_Iran
    14.52754969 Udi_Azerbaijan
    14.60570437 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain

    Turkicness
    Target: Ağaçörenli
    Distance: 3.3862% / 3.38622629 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    41.1 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    24.3 Armenian_East
    18.0 Armenian_West
    16.6 Greek_Lemnos

    This Ağaçörenli result is same with şereflikoçhisar results really i can't see any difference

    Here is a şereflikoçhisar result

    Target: Gossarlı_3
    Distance: 0.9790% / 0.97897241 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    73.3 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    12.0 Turk_South
    3.9 Algerian
    3.9 Sardinian
    3.0 Hazara
    2.2 Yakut
    1.7 Yazidi
    Last edited by Altaylı; 02-23-2021 at 07:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Highly unusual result from North-West Azerbaijan. The person is of Ayrum ancestry.
    This man's closest match is Azerbaijanis of Turkey, but even they are rather distant at 5.4.

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    Very interesting result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Highly unusual result from North-West Azerbaijan. The person is of Ayrum ancestry.
    This man's closest match is Azerbaijanis of Turkey, but even they are rather distant at 5.4.
    Low SNP kit. But I think with higher SNP it still would be rather atypical.
    1 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_East_Black_Sea @ 2,009
    2 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Greek_Pontus @ 2,217
    3 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_Ahiska @ 2,293

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Low SNP kit. But I think with higher SNP it still would be rather atypical.
    Can't figure out why such a low Gedrosia together with high(for Azerbaijanis) Caucasus. Any idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Can't figure out why such a low Gedrosia together with high(for Azerbaijanis) Caucasus. Any idea?

    It looks like the person is a straight mix of Turkmen+ native northeast anatolian to me. I don't know much about the settlement history of Yerevan Azeris though.

    Could also have some ancestry which he isn't aware of.
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    Azeris from Absheron Peninsula:



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    Absheron01,24.55,0.43,0.00,1.30,8.88,10.95,4.02,0.68,9.45,0.00,39.73,0.01
    Absheron02,24.27,0.00,0.30,0.00,2.69,13.02,4.29,1.99,14.86,0.00,38.23,0.35
    Absheron03,25.70,0.82,0.00,0.00,7.50,9.17,4.95,1.11,12.06,0.12,38.08,0.48
    To skrót, który wyrażamy w czterech literach. Tak to jest moja ziemia.

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