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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    [B]

    Is this kind of results normal for that province?
    Yes i have an average for Kerman region:

    Distance to: Sirjan
    3.92433434 Iran_C_East
    4.08600049 Iranian_Fars
    4.64284396 Iran_Central
    5.14629964 Iran_Khorasan
    7.86945360 Yazidi


    East Asian could come from the Afshar or Bichaghchi (Arasbaran) tribe of Sirjan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    In what sense?
    Maybe more Northern or something. But Kyp says he's not unusual.

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    Was lookig through the matches of another person (trying to help him figure out his ancestry) and found this individual. Presumably from Turkey (just put Ilkay as his name). Y-DNA is listed as O-M95 but I don't see much Xi Jinping in his results

    Gedrosia 23.8 Pct
    Siberian 1.08 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.7 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 7.36 Pct
    North_European 8.41 Pct
    South_Asian 1.23 Pct
    East_African 0.47 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 12.78 Pct
    East_Asian 0.77 Pct
    Caucasus 43.39 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Ilkay
    2.63058929 Zaza
    3.49509657 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    4.16237913 Kurd_Adygea
    4.41013605 Udi_Azerbaijan
    4.47466200 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.79033678 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.18558001 Yazidi
    6.37370379 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    6.76334976 Kurd_Sorani
    7.08218187 Azerbaijani

    Target: Ilkay
    Distance: 1.2852% / 1.28522037 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    32.9 Zaza
    31.3 Udi_Azerbaijan
    28.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

    Target: Ilkay
    Distance: 1.4845% / 1.48445981 | ADC: 1x RC
    43.3 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    36.9 Udi_Azerbaijan
    19.8 Zaza

    Distance to: Ilkay
    1.22315457 13.00% Ossetian_South + 87.00% Zaza
    1.35638207 12.40% Abkhazian + 87.60% Zaza
    1.37413489 18.40% Georgian_Svan + 81.60% Kurd_Kurmanji
    1.41121894 10.60% Georgian_Svan + 89.40% Zaza
    1.47577716 12.00% Kumyks + 88.00% Zaza
    1.48009287 21.00% Abkhazian + 79.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
    1.48609033 19.00% Georgian_Gurian + 81.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
    1.53138747 12.40% Ossetian + 87.60% Zaza
    1.56191151 13.20% Adyghe + 86.80% Zaza
    1.56312722 19.40% Abkhazian + 80.60% Kurd_Adygea

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    @Leto as far I know(i once made a y-dna map if Turkey lol) there is one person with haplogroup O in Tunceli. Also it seems this haplogroup is existing, even it is very rare, among Anatolian Turks. On the other hand i never saw haplogroup C in Turkey. We need more samples but I carefully claim that this is not of Mongolian origin, it seems they didn’t left any genetic trace in Anatolia(even not Y-Dna).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    @Leto as far I know(i once made a y-dna map if Turkey lol) there is one person with haplogroup O in Tunceli. Also it seems this haplogroup is existing, even it is very rare, among Anatolian Turks. On the other hand i never saw haplogroup C in Turkey. We need more samples but I carefully claim that this is not of Mongolian origin, it seems they didn’t left any genetic trace in Anatolia(even not Y-Dna).
    Black Sea region has a significant amount of C AFAIK. It could rather be related to Tatars rather than direct Mongol footprint though.

    Furthermore, 2 O and 1 C individuals had been found in Balkan Turks among 130 samples, if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    @Leto as far I know(i once made a y-dna map if Turkey lol) there is one person with haplogroup O in Tunceli. Also it seems this haplogroup is existing, even it is very rare, among Anatolian Turks. On the other hand i never saw haplogroup C in Turkey. We need more samples but I carefully claim that this is not of Mongolian origin, it seems they didn’t left any genetic trace in Anatolia(even not Y-Dna).
    Turkish DNA project on FTDNA has some O+C and even 2 D's, but overall out of the entire nation its probably something like 0.01%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    @Leto as far I know(i once made a y-dna map if Turkey lol) there is one person with haplogroup O in Tunceli. Also it seems this haplogroup is existing, even it is very rare, among Anatolian Turks. On the other hand i never saw haplogroup C in Turkey. We need more samples but I carefully claim that this is not of Mongolian origin, it seems they didn’t left any genetic trace in Anatolia(even not Y-Dna).

    Here is C from Samsun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Black Sea region has a significant amount of C AFAIK. It could rather be related to Tatars rather than direct Mongol footprint though.

    Furthermore, 2 O and 1 C individuals had been found in Balkan Turks among 130 samples, if that helps.
    Well yeah, this is Anatolian Turks, non-Turks from Anatolia excluded:

    N=304 (Source: TurkishDNA)






    And this is Balkan Turks, non-Turks from Balkans excluded:


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    Azerbaijan has a couple of O

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    Thanks guys, i hope you didn’t misunderstood me, i meant with „very rare“ not even 1%. I mostly used Youtube, other portals and this famiythree website for my Y-Dna list, i tried to visit Turkishdna project but then it was not possible, it seems they have sometimes problems with the upkeep of this website. Unfortunately i don’t have „contacts“ or „sources“ like you guys to find more information hahaha. But still i doubt that Mongolians left genetic leftover in Anatolia. Like you said @Kaspias, the haplogroup C is probably of Tatar (and maybe even it could came from Caucasian migrants, dont have Tats or another group there a big amount of this haplogroup?) or Oghuz origin. I tried to make a list or map of all haplogroups since there are definitely some interesting features among Turks, for example why that some regions have visible N and some Q. That could help us to understand the genetic history of Oghuz Turks.

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