Total Fertility Rate in Europe (map)

[Seya]

It's not even about education, but about face mimics and mentality recognition every cop here in Russia will recognize asap and check documents of the people. Some Moldovans have it written on face, their clothes and behaviour who are they, without saying a word. But the ones from Chisinau for example cannot be recognized as something alien. Same as Russians, we have some exact populations, especially northern Russians who look like hobbits in Moscow. I lived years next to bus station where buses from north arrive, and I always see those extremely blonde close to white round headed 170-175 cm height people with extremely gracile body, red face, tiny noses from towns where populace didn't change since 1800s.

Yes, it's true. There is indeed something about them recognizable from a km away. I can spot a Moldavian way before he opens his mouth. They rarely pass unnoticeable. I don't exactly know why..I never actually thought about it. Maybe as you said, their style (clothes, haircuts...), face/body mimics...I have no idea. Sometimes it's just about their physical appearance but not always. Some of them could look potentially local but still they don't.

[Aspirin]

I'm not going to troll or any kind of ethnic bs, but I didn't notice that urban Moldovans are a target of such stuff in Romania. Same in Russia, some Moldovans are considered "rednecks" for ultra rural mentality and behaviour, but if they're modern people, especially somewhere from Chinisau they're barely recognized as something different. So it's not about being ethnic Moldovan, but about mentality of exact people.

This is historically motivated, there were always hatred between Moldovans and Wallachians, due to the formers being more successful historically, hence why many prominent Romanian figures are Moldovans or people who originate in Moldova. Moldova was allways more developed till 1859 polittically, economically and especially culturally. After that due to loss of its political/economic/cultural independence it started to degenerate, first via heavy brain drains towards Wallachia, and after due to political/economic marginalisation and low investitions in local infrastructure and cultural development. Nowadays, this region is in an intense process of Gypsifiction via manele music and heavy birthrate of local Gypsies.

[Victor]

This is historically motivated, there were always hatred between Moldovans and Wallachians, due to the formers being more successful historically, hence why many prominent Romanian figures are Moldovans or people who originate in Moldova. Moldova was allways more developed till 1859 polittically, economically and especially culturally. After that due to loss of its political/economic/cultural independence it started to degenerate, first via heavy brain drains towards Wallachia, and after due to political/economic marginalisation and low investitions in local infrastructure and cultural development. Nowadays, this region is in an intense process of Gypsifiction via manele music and heavy birthrate of local Gypsies.

Yeh probably you know some things better than I do, I know Wallachia just as a passer by. Most of my Ro friends are from Banat (especially Timisoara) from times when I was active nationalist and had friends from Noua Dreapta whom i've met through my Serbian friends.

[Zohor]

This is historically motivated, there were always hatred between Moldovans and Wallachians, due to the formers being more successful historically, hence why many prominent Romanian figures are Moldovans or people who originate in Moldova. Moldova was allways more developed till 1859 polittically, economically and especially culturally. After that due to loss of its political/economic/cultural independence it started to degenerate, first via heavy brain drains towards Wallachia, and after due to political/economic marginalisation and low investitions in local infrastructure and cultural development. Nowadays, this region is in an intense process of Gypsifiction via manele music and heavy birthrate of local Gypsies.

Don't you have a bit overreacted opinion? I mean Seya even told it's not about mocking, but some kind of difference of mentality of some Moldovans easy to spot by people raised in Romania, which indeed it partly has reason in history but it was more focusing on the new capital area(and the area with natural resources) not some jealousy ending up with underdeveloping the region on purpose, come on. Also, bruh manele - it's just music, listening to it won't make you gypsy.

[Aspirin]

Don't you have a bit overreacted opinion? I mean Seya even told it's not about mocking, but some kind of difference of mentality of some Moldovans easy to spot by people raised in Romania, which indeed it partly has reason in history but it was more focusing on the new capital area(and the area with natural resources) not some jealousy ending up with underdeveloping the region on purpose, come on. Also, bruh manele - it's just music, listening to it won't make you gypsy.

People who listen to manele music start to imitate Gypsy culture and to behave like them, is similar with nigger culture influence in US via most degenerated forms of rap which nowdays have a very devastated effect on US whites. Is the same situation in Romania. This shit start slowly to have some effects in MD too, I see more and more local youth who listen to this filthy degenerated music.

[rajputprincess]

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[MinervaItalica]

Dark green countries have more immigration who obviously have higher fertility rate. Italy is still more conservatist but i wonder how much this will last. Soon or later we will be forced to import more immigrant to increase demographics.

[dviz]

Don't you have a bit overreacted opinion? I mean Seya even told it's not about mocking, but some kind of difference of mentality of some Moldovans easy to spot by people raised in Romania, which indeed it partly has reason in history but it was more focusing on the new capital area(and the area with natural resources) not some jealousy ending up with underdeveloping the region on purpose, come on. Also, bruh manele - it's just music, listening to it won't make you gypsy.

Complaining about being mocked by Romanians is Moldovenist/suveranist political speech. It's on the same level with the grandma stories about the brutal Romanian gendarmes in Bessarabia, meaning there is some truth behind it, but the reality is different. There is friendly banter between Romanian regions, but nothing serious. Moldovans take it a bit harder because they're thinner skinned (I would speculate this is some North Caucasian cultural influence).

Aspirin is right though about the manele trash.

[Dušan]

Damn that's bad, the best of Europe has barely grown in the last century while the worst doubled in numbers. Add intra-European mass migration and you have a fine dysgenic cocktail.
On the other hand this shows that the fears regarding MENAs and Africans popping out 5 kids forever are unfounded. They will get to subreplacement level eventually.

No, the best part of Europe - Slavs and Mediterraneans - had very nice high fertility.
It would be great to have again at least fertility of 3, so our population flourish again.

[Dušan]

Another map, very detailed, from 1930.

Here most likely Germans and Hungarians lowering fertility average in Serbian Vojvodina and Romanian part of Banat.