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    Obviously not all of them, but are most of them Caucasian? Only a minority? None of them?

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    north africans are not purely west eurasian, they all without any exception have around 5-15% of west african ancestry and some also question the nature of the ANA ancestry among IBM which would make north africans being around 15-25% non-eurasian if you consider it "SSA"

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    Here is a PCA by McDonald from what I know:

    http://faculty.scs.illinois.edu/~mcd...PCA84pops.html

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    I think the average NA has like 5-10% Yoruba but Iberomaurisian was partly african related so idk
    I would say primarily Caucasoid
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    The ones without Negroid admixture are predominantly Caucasoid yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corporate_Demolisher View Post
    The ones without Negroid admixture are predominantly Caucasoid yes.
    aka none of them. All North Africans are Negro admixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    aka none of them. All North Africans are Negro admixed.
    Iberians too :

    According to our GW data, Iberians, including southern autochthonous people, are mainly mixing outcomes of ancient settlers in the Peninsula, represented by the Basques and northwestern Europeans, with a reduced contribution of Maghreb and Near East as well as a minor component of sub-Saharan people.
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article...0533#201241738

    A gradient of shared IBD segments is observed from southern to northern Europe (based on WEA; Fig. 2 and SI Appendix, Table S3). This sharing is highest in the Iberian Peninsula for both North Africa and Sub-Saharan African IBD segments.
    Lastly, three recent studies highlight the possibility of genetic exchange between Europe and Africa. Moorjani et al. (9) estimated that about 1–3% of recent Sub-Saharan African ancestry is present in multiple southern European populations; Cerezo et al. (23) find evidence of older (11,000 ya) Sub-Saharan gene flow toward Europe based on mtDNA genomes; and Auton et al. (8) found that short haplotypes were shared between the Yoruban Nigerians and southwestern Europeans.



    https://www.pnas.org/content/110/29/11791


    We analyze genome-wide polymorphism data from about 40 West Eurasian groups to show that almost all Southern Europeans have inherited 1%–3% African ancestry with an average mixture date of around 55 generations ago, consistent with North African gene flow at the end of the Roman Empire and subsequent Arab migrations. Levantine groups harbor 4%–15% African ancestry with an average mixture date of about 32 generations ago, consistent with close political, economic, and cultural links with Egypt in the late middle ages. We also detect 3%–5% sub-Saharan African ancestry in all eight of the diverse Jewish populations that we analyzed. For the Jewish admixture, we obtain an average estimated date of about 72 generations. This may reflect descent of these groups from a common ancestral population that already had some African ancestry prior to the Jewish Diasporas.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1001373

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilcar View Post
    Iberians too
    Yeah, and Belgians. Look

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dmatch-results

    Please bitch, you can not compare North Africans, who are basically quadroons, with any Euro population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Yeah, and Belgians. Look

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dmatch-results

    Please bitch, you can not compare North Africans, who are basically quadroons, with any Euro population.

    what I posted are peer-reviewed papers made by geneticists, it's way more accurate than gedmatch results. Moreover what you posted show that they don't have SSA ancestry since "northeast_african" is not fully SSA so scoring 0.18 for a belgian means he has 0.09% which is simply "noise"/negligeable.

    Meanwhile if we have to go by gedmatch this is what your people get :

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 30.43
    2 North_Sea 22.50
    3 West_Med 21.75
    4 Baltic 7.86
    5 East_Med 5.94
    6 Eastern_Euro 5.41
    7 Sub-Saharan 2.11
    8 West_Asian 1.89
    9 Red_Sea 1.28


    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...light=gedmatch


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 41.81
    2 West_Med 27.39
    3 East_Med 12.94
    4 Baltic 10.11
    5 Red_Sea 2.34
    6 West_Asian 2.15
    7 Sub-Saharan 1.7
    8 Northeast_African 0.92
    9 East_Asian 0.64


    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 36.05
    2 West_Med 20.88
    3 North_Sea 16.73
    4 East_Med 10.05
    5 Baltic 6.43
    6 Red_Sea 2.71
    7 West_Asian 2.41
    8 Eastern_Euro 1.74
    9 Sub-Saharan 1.46
    10 Northeast_African 1.24

    11 Southeast_Asian 0.29


    # Population Percent
    1 Mediterranean 43.59
    2 NE_European 38.52
    3 Caucasian 8.34
    4 SW_Asian 4.47
    5 Horn_Of_Africa 2.68
    6 W_African 1.65

    7 Wht_Nile_River 0.39
    8 Omo_River 0.35



    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...light=gedmatch


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 39.05
    2 West_Med 25.56
    3 East_Med 16.59
    4 Baltic 11.61
    5 Red_Sea 2.86
    6 Northeast_African 2
    7 East_Asian 1.09
    8 West_Asian 0.68
    9 Oceanian 0.23
    10 Amerindian 0.13
    11 South_Asian 0.12
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.06

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...light=gedmatch

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 40.95
    2 West_Med 28.51
    3 Baltic 11.8
    4 East_Med 8.69
    5 West_Asian 5.27
    6 Red_Sea 1.93
    7 Oceanian 0.71
    8 East_Asian 0.7
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.7
    10 South_Asian 0.25
    11 Northeast_African 0.21
    12 Amerindian 0.15
    13 Siberian 0.12

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...sults-W-photos

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 40.83
    2 West_Med 22.53
    3 East_Med 12.75
    4 Baltic 12.3
    5 Red_Sea 4.56
    6 West_Asian 1.77
    7 East_Asian 1.76
    8 Northeast_African 1.39
    9 Sub-Saharan 1.15

    10 Oceanian 0.48
    11 South_Asian 0.48

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...se-(Vila-Real)




    Stop being so desesperate and always comparing yourself to other europeans, you're mixed with non-euros they aren't.

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    Coastal Algerians, Northern Moroccans, Tunisians - Caucasoid
    Lybians, Egyptians - Pred Caucasoid with some SSA influence

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