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    Alright , since It's not good to argue in members photos thread (about Islam), here is a thread.

    @Rethel @Dick @anymember wanna join.

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    Here is my message to all non-semitics whom are descendants of pagans( Asatru, Suomenuskoe, Taltoism, Slavic Paganism etc.) which they didnt kill nor opressed anyone to convert to their religion. We ve bled each other so much because of splits between Jewish Mythology. Break the chains of your opressors' religion and honour your ancestors by preserving their cultural and religious customs. We live in Age of Knowledge and we all know how rotten Middle eastern religions are. I realized some customs are not related with islam (arabic influenced jewish mythology) in my grandparents' attitude after research I saw these were remains of Tengriism. After dumping all bs systematically being inserted my brain, I found my roots and moral in Tengri .I always disgusted from bending over someone or some creature or a power. then I heard spiritual leader of Altais Akay Kine: We aren't servants of God , what kind of parents wants his chlild bending over someone like slaves, We, Turks are children of God scattered on Earth. As an Atheist I dedicated myself to preserve Mighty Tengri's customs and transfer them to my descendants (idk if I ll have). Old Gods Protect Us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graywolf View Post
    Here is my message to all non-semitics whom are descendants of pagans( Asatru, Suomenuskoe, Taltoism, Slavic Paganism etc.) which they didnt kill nor opressed anyone to convert to their religion. We ve bled each other so much because of splits between Jewish Mythology. Break the chains of your opressors' religion and honour your ancestors by preserving their cultural and religious customs. We live in Age of Knowledge and we all know how rotten Middle eastern religions are. I realized some customs are not related with islam (arabic influenced jewish mythology) in my grandparents' attitude after research I saw these were remains of Tengriism. After dumping all bs systematically being inserted my brain, I found my roots and moral in Tengri .I always disgusted from bending over someone or some creature or a power. then I heard spiritual leader of Altais Akay Kine: We aren't servants of God , what kind of parents wants his chlild bending over someone like slaves, We, Turks are children of God scattered on Earth. As an Atheist I dedicated myself to preserve Mighty Tengri's customs and transfer them to my descendants (idk if I ll have). Old Gods Protect Us!
    Turks are children of god? hmm I heard that before .. ya , Christians and Jews say that also.

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    Christians say beacuse of Pagan effect and Catholicism bears heavy pagan influences. I told I am atheist before I guess and is it your only point from this long text? And if Muslims want to see themselves as slaves of non-existent god am OK with that.

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    And about Islam I reject ridiculous claims of Mohammad suchs as: Moishe splitted the Red Sea, he splitted moon in half, he's been travelled by god to Gods place(?) And Jerusalem at one night and especially he receives something from God or Teufel or he sees Angel's. I refuse to believe these tales which are u are out of religion if u reject if someone accepts these with his conscience (?) I only laugh my arse off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    since It's not good to argue in members photos thread
    As someone who has been here since 2014 I disagree.

    The members photos thread has always been the best place to argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graywolf View Post
    And about Islam I reject ridiculous claims of Mohammad suchs as: Moishe splitted the Red Sea, he splitted moon in half, he's been travelled by god to Gods place(?) And Jerusalem at one night and especially he receives something from God or Teufel or he sees Angel's. I refuse to believe these tales which are u are out of religion if u reject if someone accepts these with his conscience (?) I only laugh my arse off.
    Ok , point of view .. let me ask you something , let's say you live in Roman empire era or maybe before it and someone told you , hey mate one day we gonna travel from Egypt to Roma in 2 hours , not months anymore , what are you going to tell him? of course you are crazy , maybe if we use magic only.

    nowadays you can take a plane and head to any place on earth in few hours .

    maybe you don't accept the idea of travelling to Al-Quds or Jerusalem in one night but then again you have to reject the idea of a plane , correct? that's fair enough.

    and about the Red Sea , yes it's true and happened , I'm muslim and I believe in it.. there is also historical evidence

    first : Merenptah Stele .. it proves the existance of israeli people (sons of Jacob or Yakub).



    Merenptah is believed to the pharaoh of Moses .. they even discovered salt in his body (probably from drowining in sea)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    As someone who has been here since 2014 I disagree.

    The members photos thread has always been the best place to argue.
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graywolf View Post
    Christians say beacuse of Pagan effect and Catholicism bears heavy pagan influences. I told I am atheist before I guess and is it your only point from this long text? And if Muslims want to see themselves as slaves of non-existent god am OK with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Graywolf View Post
    And about Islam I reject ridiculous claims of Mohammad suchs as: Moishe splitted the Red Sea, he splitted moon in half, he's been travelled by god to Gods place(?) And Jerusalem at one night and especially he receives something from God or Teufel or he sees Angel's. I refuse to believe these tales which are u are out of religion if u reject if someone accepts these with his conscience (?) I only laugh my arse off.
    May I ask you why do you use a Pan-Islamist pasha's portrait as avatar if you harshly criticize Islam? I am asking just out of curiosity.

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    He wouldn't be Pan-Islamists if he lived today. He wasnt just pan-Islamist also he was Turanist btw . Pan-Islamism was the best doctrine at the time to use against British and espescially if your father in law was Caliph. He died in the sake of libeeration of Turks. He finished the tyrrany of Abdulhamid II and brought liberty to empire. Modernised the army brought Prussian model. He was as romantic to die in a far away geography for the sake of his race and he was the Commander in Chief of the army which 2 of my grandparents martyred and 3 of them became veteran. These are some reasons. And becoming muslim or pan-islamist doesnt lower his value on my eyes. I hope It will satisfy your curiosity.

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