Islam Debate Thread

[Rethel]

sorry , we don't worship a man like you do.

1. You worship the most obviously false "prophet" ever, and most disgusting one. You worship also a pice of paper. And a piece of stone. And many other things.
2. Which man do I worship?


Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

[Graywolf]

Ok , point of view .. let me ask you something , let's say you live in Roman empire era or maybe before it and someone told you , hey mate one day we gonna travel from Egypt to Roma in 2 hours , not months anymore , what are you going to tell him? of course you are crazy , maybe if we use magic only.

nowadays you can take a plane and head to any place on earth in few hours .

maybe you don't accept the idea of travelling to Al-Quds or Jerusalem in one night but then again you have to reject the idea of a plane , correct? that's fair enough.

and about the Red Sea , yes it's true and happened , I'm muslim and I believe in it.. there is also historical evidence

first : Merenptah Stele .. it proves the existance of israeli people (sons of Jacob or Yakub).



Merenptah is believed to the pharaoh of Moses .. they even discovered salt in his body (probably from drowining in sea)

If someone would tell me we will make wooden or metal gadgets filled with fuel and fly like birds I would say may be. But if someone would say I flew last night above Jerusalem and saw god or I splitted moon in half I would laugh like I said. Dude these pharoahs are embalmed, we conservate meat like this even today isnt it logical? And if something like these kinda catastrophic why didnt wrote them in records while recording so much shit? There is no proof about splitting of red sea either. As we know today atmosphere has no 7 levels nor there are no waters not blending each other. quran is full of mistakes and neo-scholars try to justify these mistakes with jazz. Islam itself made up by mohammad and systemized by scholars like imam-el azam, imam malek etc. The islam of mohammed is vahhabism adopted by saudis others are made up by scholars.

[Egyptian]

1. You worship the most obviously false "prophet" ever, and most disgusting one. You worship also a pice of paper. And a piece of stone. And many other things.
2. Which man do I worship?

First of All we don't worship any prophet including (Muhammed PBUH) . I don't even know how did you come up with this.

what piece of paper?
piece of stone? you mean Kaaba? no , we don 't worship it either .. blood of a muslim is more important than Kaaba ..Kaaba is a place where we do pilgrimage and Umrah.

2- Yes , you worship a man called Jesus. He is a prophet and yet early christians turned him into some kind of god, there is even debate between christians themselves if he is a god or son of god or normal man , Jehovah's Witnesses and before them Arianism said he wan't a god , just a normal man , a prophet.

[Rethel]

Islam Christianity and judaism all of them originated in same Region you can find common things among Islam Christianity and judaism so if Islam is pagan then same goes for Christianity

This is a very ignorant broken logic.
Christianity isn't the same as Judaism and Islam, so, one doesn't define another.

Christianity is the true Israelite religion, a fullfilment of it.
Judaism is a reaction on that, a rejection of Jesus plus pharisaic apostasies and myths plus ocultistic kaballah.
Islam it is a reaction on Christian domination, so it is some judaism mixed with arabic paganism plus some weird gnostic parachristian stuff.


Christianity is based on the Bible.

Judaism is based on the Talmud etc.
Islam is based on Koran, Sira and Hadiths.

Judeo-Islam has almost nothing to do with Christianity.

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

[Egyptian]

If someone would tell me we will make wooden or metal gadgets filled with fuel and fly like birds I would say may be. But if someone would say I flew last night above Jerusalem and saw god or I splitted moon in half I would laugh like I said. Dude these pharoahs are embalmed, we conservate meat like this even today isnt it logical? And if something like these kinda catastrophic why didnt wrote them in records while recording so much shit? There is no proof about splitting of red sea either. As we know today atmosphere has no 7 levels nor there are no waters not blending each other. quran is full of mistakes and neo-scholars try to justify these mistakes with jazz. Islam itself made up by mohammad and systemized by scholars like imam-el azam, imam malek etc. The islam of mohammed is vahhabism adopted by saudis others are made up by scholars.

How about , small metal figure can destroy countries? Am talking about the nuclear bomb. would you believe it if you were a person from the past?

by the way , Muhammed PBUH didn't split the moon , where was that mentioned? he splited the moon?

you say Islam and Quran made up by Muhammed PBUH .. how is it even possible and he was illiterate person? he couldn't write nor read.

[Altaylı]

This is a very ignorant broken logic.
Christianity isn't the same as Judaism and Islam, so, one doesn't define another.

Christianity is the true Israelite religion, a fullfilment of it.
Judaism is a reaction on that, a rejection of Jesus plus pharisaic apostasies and myths plus ocultistic kaballah.
Islam it is a reaction on Christian domination, so it is some judaism mixed with arabic paganism plus some weird gnostic parachristian stuff.

I cant see ignorant thing here There are common things in among these religions
Your argument is very shitty even you dont have source to be taken seriously

[Rethel]

it's not islamic it's probably turk or indian ..

Say yet chinese.
The point was, mahometans belive in it and use it.
It is even called hand of fatima - hand of the daughter of Mahomet.

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

[Egyptian]

Say yet chinese.
The point was, mahometans belive in it and use it.
It is even called hand of fatima - hand of the daughter of Mahomet.

Hand of Mariam not Faitma..

it's jewish symbol , later by ignorant muslims used it as symbol to protect from envy and so on.

[Rethel]

especially demolishing these satanic figures of egypt.

So, start with Mecca and Kaaba.

[Egyptian]

So, start with Mecca and Kaaba.

It's not Satanic nor we worship Kaaba , again it's a place of pilgrimage