Map of cancer death rate in Europe

**17571imre** · 02-04-2021, 01:23 PM

a map of cancer death rates per 100.000 people. Hungary and Serbia are the highest. does anyone has a an idea why this is? And how accurate this map is.

https://imgur.com/a/Vp2Ga3w
source: mapvault

**Ryujin** · 02-04-2021, 01:25 PM

Probably due to a poorer healthcare system.

**Radimir** · 02-04-2021, 01:28 PM

Scandinavia is the least cancerous? Bless you Odin!

**Benyzero** · 02-04-2021, 01:36 PM

Thats because a lot of people having constant trip and cant relax because of everyday stress. It causes a lot of cardiovascular problems, besides fucks up your metabolism, which causes cancer.

**~~ixulescu~~** · 02-04-2021, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by 17571imre

a map of cancer death rates per 100.000 people. Hungary and Serbia are the highest. does anyone has a an idea why this is? And how accurate this map is.

https://imgur.com/a/Vp2Ga3w
source: mapvault

It's mostly because of the lung cancer. Western Europe has a 20 year head start in regards to smoking reduction compared to Eastern Europe. Lung cancer is deadly but quite preventable.

**Benyzero** · 02-04-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by ixulescu

It's mostly because of the lung cancer. Western Europe has a 20 year head start in regards to smoking reduction compared to Eastern Europe. Lung cancer is deadly but quite preventable.

I didn't think about that , but your are right

**~~ixulescu~~** · 02-04-2021, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Benyzero

I didn't think about that , but your are right

Yeah, most cancer death rate reduction in Western Europe and the US in the past 30 years is due to smoking prevention/cessation. There is still progress to be made. Lung cancer prevalence shut up in the 1930s from very low rates, again due to smoking (promoted in the movies).

**~~Hulu~~** · 02-04-2021, 02:22 PM

I don't think that's it, look at Turkey.

**~~ixulescu~~** · 02-04-2021, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hulu

I don't think that's it, look at Turkey.

That's a good point, but Eastern Europe has also a high prevalence of liver cancer due to alcohol consumption, something that is not common in Turkey.

So yes, both smoking and alcohol consumption need to be reduced in Eastern Europe.

**Ouistreham** · 02-04-2021, 02:45 PM

• Communist past, i.e. highly polluting industries
• Tobacco, vodka, sliwowitz...
• Prevailing Westerly winds: polluted air generated in the West kills people in the East!
• Improved healthcare systems: good enough to deliver accurate assessments of death causes (many lethal carcinoms would have been unnoticed previously) — not yet good enough to ensure efficient care.
• AND: poor reliability of stats, as exemplified by the current COVID crisis.