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    Leaving all the propaganda from the Soviets aside, all of it, what was the situation really like before 1914 in the Russian Empire in all terms? Literacy, industry, poverty etc.
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    Basically, 2 world class cities and mud huts in the rest of the country (except for Poland and Finland to some degree). Similar pattern to today's situation, but worse.

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    Afaik they were almost the same level as the west. At least in the big cities like St Petersburg and Moscow etc. People in the country were more or less on medieval standard but on the other hand that was almost the same in western countrie countrysides at that time.

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    Got fucked up by the Japanese bad though.

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    Russia saw its biggest development and industrialization during communism.

    Before that the Tsarist regime was still pretty feudal, still trying to emulate the western Prussian "brother" that didn't even exist anymore. It was a classic medieval system of Church-State dominated society.

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    Not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Not much.
    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Russia saw its biggest development and industrialization during communism.

    Before that the Tsarist regime was still pretty feudal, still trying to emulate the western Prussian "brother" that didn't even exist anymore. It was a classic medieval system of Church-State dominated society.
    That's pretty much Soviet POV impelemented over commie regimes in Eastern Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    Leaving all the propaganda from the Soviets aside, all of it, what was the situation really like before 1914 in the Russian Empire in all terms? Literacy, industry, poverty etc.

    Overall Russian Empire was fastly modernising nation, however facing big social troubles.

    Literacy - if we will look at overall literacy rate RE was a very backwards nation with only 27% of litterate people in 1897, however if we'll look deeply situation was not so grim. By 1913 it was estimated that around 40% were litterate. But such low stats were result of old people were not really willing to learn.

    \If we'll look at litteracy rates among recruits we can see results of rapid development of education:

    1874
    21,4

    1880
    22,1

    1890
    31,5

    1900
    49

    1910
    65,2


    1913
    67,8

    Population of Empire was 129 mln in 1897 and 175,1 mln in 1913 and grew rapidly. Russian started to colonize Siberia, Far East, Caucasus and Central Asia massively, in 1907-1914 about 3 mln peasants moved to Siberia alone. Russia was still a massively rural country, percent of urban population grew from 13% in 1897 to only 18% in 1913. However if we'll look at absolute numbers urban population grew from 16,5 mln to 28,5 mln, which is a great increase. Urbanistation was going at a very high rate, however it was offset by very high birth rate in general.

    As for Economy it was rather weak, but also was fastly developing there much can be said about economy, but in general russian share in global industrial production grew from 3.4% to 5.3% from 1880 to 1913 and approached French level of 6.4%
    Overall industrial growth was 462% percent from 1890 to 1913.

    As for poverty Russia was poor in European terms, and medium in world terms. GDP per capita was on the level of Italy and Portugal.

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    It wasn't so backward as some portrait it here. So my city that was very provincial and remote from the center still had tram lines.

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    History in Russia is taught from the standpoint of modern historical science, which, perhaps, belittles the achievements of the Russian Empire (and of humanity in general before World War 1).
    There is an iron counterargument - if Russia was backward, why did its geopolitical influence spread even over a larger territory than under the USSR? This does not happen in backward countries.

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    was the real rival to the Westerners, therefore Lenin happened, like now Navalny, from Berlin with ... agenda?

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