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Thread: When were British Isles keltified and what happened to previous inhabitants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Presumably the pre Celtic British and Irish would have been more of a mix of Brunn, Borreby and Med types mainly, i imagine they would not have looked that difference to how maybe some of the western Scots look today(where i believe Keltic Nordid phenotypes are less common)
    The Bronze Age population was more northern genetically. The southern shift came later and affected more the Southeast of England but all the Isles have shifted a little from the Bronze Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Any British/Irish whose look is Brunn, Borreby or any other variation of CM. This forms an absolute majority among the Welsh and a relative one among the Irish... England and to a lesser extent Scotland, being more exposed to migrations (starting with neolithic settlement, ending with vikings), have a multitude of phenotypes
    Why do all the Isles people cluster together if there is a great difference in migrations? Anyway people like the Vikings used the sea and waterways so have had some input on all the Isles. The clustering of the Isles appears to be a geographic one to me.

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    The late Bronze age Scots samples look closer to Iron age. The middle/early/beaker bronze look more northern.

    Though I struggle to remember what the ancient Irish DNA was as it is guarded by security dogs, the fbi, SAS ect... because we might all die if that study sees the light of day for the public to use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    The late Bronze age Scots samples look closer to Iron age. The middle/early/beaker bronze look more northern.

    Though I struggle to remember what the ancient Irish DNA was as it is guarded by security dogs, the fbi, SAS ect... because we might all die if that study sees the light of day for the public to use
    I think it is due to copyright or studies that haven't been published yet. I did see it and there was some interesting things in there such as Irish farmers not coming from Spanish farmers due to different HG input. I unfortunately didn't save a copy and it was embargoed once again before I could. I made a thread about it here.

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...man-Prehistory

    The study was already about 3 years old when it was made public briefly so it does seem extreme to put another embargo on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Any British/Irish whose look is Brunn, Borreby or any other variation of CM. This forms an absolute majority among the Welsh and a relative one among the Irish... England and to a lesser extent Scotland, being more exposed to migrations (starting with neolithic settlement, ending with vikings), have a multitude of phenotypes
    Those go back to the Bronze Age/Beakers at most, especially Brunn or Paleo-Atlantid types. Borreby types in large part would come from Germanic invasions.

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