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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    not sure if posted before, Serb from Lika/Dalmatia (has GEDCOM), my mother's match

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    1 North_Atlantic 30.92
    2 Baltic 26.69
    3 West_Med 17.93
    4 East_Med 13.87
    5 West_Asian 6.81
    6 Oceanian 1.36
    7 South_Asian 1.29
    8 Red_Sea 0.62
    9 Siberian 0.42
    10 East_Asian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Serbian 5.26
    2 Hungarian 7.61
    3 Romanian 8.34
    4 Austrian 8.6
    5 Moldavian 9.71
    6 Croatian 10.38
    7 East_German 10.39
    8 Bulgarian 11
    9 West_German 12.54
    10 French 13.75
    11 South_Dutch 13.97
    12 North_Italian 15.87
    13 South_Polish 16.38
    14 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.62
    15 Portuguese 17.24
    16 Spanish_Galicia 17.46
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 17.69
    18 Ukrainian 17.69
    19 North_German 17.79
    20 Greek_Thessaly 17.95

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    1 50.8% North_Italian + 49.2% South_Polish @ 2.04
    2 60% North_Italian + 40% Belorussian @ 2.42
    3 59.2% North_Italian + 40.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
    4 58% North_Italian + 42% Southwest_Russian @ 2.5
    5 64.2% North_Italian + 35.8% Lithuanian @ 2.54
    6 52.8% North_Italian + 47.2% Ukrainian @ 2.57
    7 58.5% North_Italian + 41.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.62
    8 59.7% North_Italian + 40.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.64
    9 56% North_Italian + 44% Polish @ 2.65
    10 63.9% East_German + 36.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.72
    11 84.8% Hungarian + 15.2% Sardinian @ 2.75
    12 51.2% North_Italian + 48.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.81
    13 68.9% Hungarian + 31.1% North_Italian @ 2.85
    14 61% Croatian + 39% North_Italian @ 2.88
    15 67.3% Moldavian + 32.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.88
    16 65.3% Moldavian + 34.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.96
    17 53.7% South_Polish + 46.3% Tuscan @ 2.97
    18 62.9% North_Italian + 37.1% Estonian @ 3.06
    19 77.3% East_German + 22.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.13
    20 88.5% Serbian + 11.5% French_Basque @ 3.16
    That kit hasn't been posted before, but vbnetkhio posted several other ones uploaded with that email address, including the one of Krcun's daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    That kit hasn't been posted before, but vbnetkhio posted several other ones uploaded with that email address, including the one of Krcun's daughter.
    His north Atlantic is very high!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    not sure if posted before, Serb from Lika/Dalmatia (has GEDCOM), my mother's match

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    1 North_Atlantic 30.92
    2 Baltic 26.69
    3 West_Med 17.93
    4 East_Med 13.87
    5 West_Asian 6.81
    6 Oceanian 1.36
    7 South_Asian 1.29
    8 Red_Sea 0.62
    9 Siberian 0.42
    10 East_Asian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Serbian 5.26
    2 Hungarian 7.61
    3 Romanian 8.34
    4 Austrian 8.6
    5 Moldavian 9.71
    6 Croatian 10.38
    7 East_German 10.39
    8 Bulgarian 11
    9 West_German 12.54
    10 French 13.75
    11 South_Dutch 13.97
    12 North_Italian 15.87
    13 South_Polish 16.38
    14 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.62
    15 Portuguese 17.24
    16 Spanish_Galicia 17.46
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 17.69
    18 Ukrainian 17.69
    19 North_German 17.79
    20 Greek_Thessaly 17.95

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    1 50.8% North_Italian + 49.2% South_Polish @ 2.04
    2 60% North_Italian + 40% Belorussian @ 2.42
    3 59.2% North_Italian + 40.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
    4 58% North_Italian + 42% Southwest_Russian @ 2.5
    5 64.2% North_Italian + 35.8% Lithuanian @ 2.54
    6 52.8% North_Italian + 47.2% Ukrainian @ 2.57
    7 58.5% North_Italian + 41.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.62
    8 59.7% North_Italian + 40.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.64
    9 56% North_Italian + 44% Polish @ 2.65
    10 63.9% East_German + 36.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.72
    11 84.8% Hungarian + 15.2% Sardinian @ 2.75
    12 51.2% North_Italian + 48.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.81
    13 68.9% Hungarian + 31.1% North_Italian @ 2.85
    14 61% Croatian + 39% North_Italian @ 2.88
    15 67.3% Moldavian + 32.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.88
    16 65.3% Moldavian + 34.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.96
    17 53.7% South_Polish + 46.3% Tuscan @ 2.97
    18 62.9% North_Italian + 37.1% Estonian @ 3.06
    19 77.3% East_German + 22.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.13
    20 88.5% Serbian + 11.5% French_Basque @ 3.16
    the gedcoms are mixed up on that account, that's the gedcom of his mother. he's actually half from Lika/Dalmatia and half from Kolašin, Montenegro, so I didn't post him, because regionally mixed results are not too interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    the gedcoms are mixed up on that account, that's the gedcom of his mother. he's actually half from Lika/Dalmatia and half from Kolašin, Montenegro, so I didn't post him, because regionally mixed results are not too interesting.
    Well in this case it's even more interesting because he is very central Euro shifted for somebody who is half Montenegrin. How do you explain that? Closer to Hungarian than Romanian average and closer to Austrian than Moldovan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Well in this case it's even more interesting because he is very central Euro shifted for somebody who is half Montenegrin. How do you explain that? Closer to Hungarian than Romanian average and closer to Austrian than Moldovan.
    this is one of the Montenegrin academic samples:

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    mne,29.92,25.10,15.34,10.10,14.21,1.66,0.38,0.92,1.68,0.56,0.14,0.00,0.00
    it's just a little bit more "southern".

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    this is one of the Montenegrin academic samples:

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    mne,29.92,25.10,15.34,10.10,14.21,1.66,0.38,0.92,1.68,0.56,0.14,0.00,0.00
    it's just a little bit more "southern".
    Ok, but I still don't understand what is causing such high NA, Germanic medieval influence? I doubt it's from Illyrians because they were diluted by mixing with east Meds/Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Ok, but I still don't understand what is causing such high NA, Germanic medieval influence? I doubt it's from Illyrians because they were diluted by mixing with east Meds/Romans.
    Illyrians could've had around 30 NA on average judging from these 2:

    I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp,34.15,12.62,23.19, 10.39,15.71,3.56,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0
    R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy,28.96,13.5 9,21.58,9.88,19.66,3.43,0.00,0.00,1.43,0.99,0.48,0 .00,0.00

    late Roman West Balkanians probably had around 25 on average, individual range 20-30. Slavs had a very similar range to this as well.

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    Well, K12b is not very different than K13.

    PCA plot with European averages, and my result.
    Post your result if you want to be added in pca plot.

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    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Well, K12b is not very different than K13.

    PCA plot with European averages, and my result.
    Post your result if you want to be added in pca plot.

    Here is mine Dušan, knez01(Croatian),3.88,0.54,0,0.63,26.27,40.57,0,0, 5.66,0.29,21.85,0.32
    "94.3% Bosnian + 5.7% Italian_South" "0.0243"

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    Quote Originally Posted by knez01 View Post
    Here is mine Dušan, knez01(Croatian),3.88,0.54,0,0.63,26.27,40.57,0,0, 5.66,0.29,21.85,0.32
    You plot way closer to Serb than to Croat average.

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