The Fallacy of the "Pseudo" Phenotypes/Country Bias - DISCUSS

[hurtuv]

The therms PHENOtype (appearing, seeming) and GENOtype (genome, geneology - related to ancestry/country) are made to specifically distinguish between two distinct conceps, and even if there is definetely a pattern of relationship between the two, they should not be confused the slightest - contry/ethnicity bias.

It is my opinion that classification should be ONLY ABOUT PHENOTYPES, zero about genothypes/where someone is from, even if someone might or might not be best classified as some Amerindian type while being in fact North African, as posted on this page of this thread by Hamilcar.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...is#post6943175


another case, Indian actor Neil Nitin Mukesh, Atlantid+East Med imo, better than North Indid something or some shit...


Forget those maps of phenotype distribution, they might tell you only where they're more common. I can provide several examples of people outside of the areas covered displaying the phenotype in question.

It is also not as forum member travv once said, in a Turanid examples thread I can't find right now, where I posted several Portuguese Turanids (or influenced - I can show you some Baltids etc too if you ask, and those Turanids looked more Turanid than some acclaimed Turkish examples in my opinion, but that's secondary), he answered to some other guy who said "those are not Turanids" by saying "of course they're not Turanids, Turanid is a Cental Asian type"...and I suppose Turkey or Hungary are in Central Asia then...

No such thing as "pseudo" phenotypes as well, imo, a phenotype just is - that's it. Otherwise, how could you distinguish, say, two Hungarians, a Turanid and a pseudo-Turanid, being one of them an offspring of Turanid parents and the other of not at all Turanid parents or grandparents, but got his look in a "pseudo" way?

[TheMaestro]

It's normal, all Balkanites are in TA pontids. All central-Euros gorids, french Atlantids and Spainards Atlanto-meds XD

I also always get different classifications and I never know what phenotype I am.

[Benyzero]

It's normal, all Balkanites are in TA pontids. All central-Euros gorids, french Atlantids and Spainards Atlanto-meds XD

I also always get different classifications and I never know what phenotype I am.

Balkanites are like chinese, you can't make difference between them

[Immanenz]

Phenotypes itself are just pseudo -science. Also most people did not read the describtions or know all the terms by heart (which is also very difficult without seeing those phenotypes daily). The more geographic removed a phenotype is, the less you know about it. Passifications are also highly subjective- you are what you are.

I really dont think the North African looks Amerindian for example. Everyody is entitled to his opinion- there is no absolut truth, especially in Pseudo science. But yeah, it would be appreciated if people would be less biased, i def. agree on this.

[Hamilcar]

it's a question of frequency, Obviously they both form a minority among their people and most of the time we can easily define a typical NA or indian phenotype

[Norb]

well we do know.... that R1a=Aryan=Nordic

[Creoda]

A classification should correspond with racial/ethnic make-up (including historical migrations), otherwise what's the point?

Racial taxonomy was a flawed way of dividing Europeans from before the science of population genetics, it should only complement genetic reality, as a separate thing it's meaningless.

[Dick]

All Europeans are a mixture of indigenous HG+Neolithic+steppe in varying percentages. If you want to get technical about phenotypical traits for example than sharper features came from the steppe

[Immanenz]

All Europeans are a mixture of indigenous HG+Neolithic+steppe in varying percentages. If you want to get technical about phenotypical traits for example than sharper features came from the steppe

now the problem would be to define "sharp facial features". Paleo Europeans would have good facial growth, low orbited eye sockets, square jawline, a long vaulted head which is impressive looking as well (not all, so thats why its tricky to gneralize anyway). but agree, we are a mix of those components- Steppe is itself also a mix of EHG/CHg and obv. the first would be closer to WHG and the latter to AF

[travv]

As I have said many times you can't classify someone without knowing their origin (this was also pointed out by Russian anthropologists) it just doesn't make sense.

For example this woman below is Berber




and she looks Cenral Asian (Nassbean/Hamilcar posted a lot of such looking Berbers). I'm sure even our the best unbiased classifiers never classify her as Turanid because it's too much even for them.

At the same time, they classified some similar-looking Portuguese as Turanid or Uralid (like hurtuv said already).

In the same way they classify their kinsmen as Faelids, Paleo-Atlantid, Nordcocromagnids etc because as they think they have some resemblance to the northern Eropeans. Just ridiculous.

There can be no any "unbiased classification". The classification must be biased, otherwise it makes no sense.

"Unbiased classification" it's a joke just another OWD thing from brown people.