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    Default Kazakh DNA

    Turk_Medieval: Gokturk DA89, Karluk, Kimak, Kipchak DA23, Kirgiz DA86.
    Mongol_Medieval: I13176 and all other LM samples.




    Code:
    Distance to:	Kazakh
    0.01581083	60.00% MNG_Late_Med + 40.00% RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian
    0.01657276	33.60% KAZ_Kangju + 66.40% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01659217	60.00% KAZ_Kipchak + 40.00% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01730870	21.80% ARM_MBA + 78.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01785308	29.00% IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA + 71.00% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01786186	70.00% MNG_Late_Med + 30.00% Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o
    0.01786507	51.20% KAZ_Turk + 48.80% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01792495	62.20% MNG_Mongol + 37.80% RUS_Nomad_MA
    0.01797143	64.80% KAZ_Turk + 35.20% RUS_Amur_IA
    0.01800692	30.60% KAZ_Katon_Karagay_LBA + 69.40% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01810822	39.20% MDA_Cimmerian + 60.80% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01815124	66.80% MNG_Late_Med + 33.20% Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o2
    0.01837487	62.20% KAZ_Turk + 37.80% MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave
    0.01845440	49.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 51.00% KAZ_Kipchak
    0.01856670	48.00% KAZ_Turk + 52.00% KGZ_Nomad_MA
    0.01861255	21.80% ARM_LBA + 78.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01864869	49.20% MNG_Late_Med + 50.80% RUS_Nomad_MA
    0.01866048	60.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 40.00% TUR_Ottoman
    0.01871880	53.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 46.20% MNG_Early_Med_Uigur
    0.01877114	77.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 22.60% RUS_Alan_MA
    0.01882057	36.20% KAZ_Wusun + 63.80% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01883711	78.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 21.40% RUS_Maykop
    0.01902194	21.40% ARM_Areni_C + 78.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01903656	47.00% KAZ_Kipchak + 53.00% MNG_Mongol
    0.01904052	22.20% ARM_Lchashen_MBA + 77.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01913961	66.60% MNG_Late_Med + 33.40% Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    0.01914439	57.00% KAZ_Turk + 43.00% MNG_Xianbei_IA
    0.01925448	31.40% HUN_Prescythian_IA + 68.60% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01926804	43.40% KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian + 56.60% KAZ_Turk
    0.01934201	51.80% KAZ_Turk + 48.20% RUS_Late_Xiongnu
    0.01950924	77.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 22.80% UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
    0.01961079	69.20% MNG_Late_Med + 30.80% Scythian_UKR
    0.01966605	33.00% KAZ_Turk_o + 67.00% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01978434	74.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 25.60% TUR_IA
    0.01979970	71.20% MNG_Late_Med + 28.80% Yamnaya_BGR
    0.01984781	79.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 21.00% RUS_Maykop_Late
    0.01989544	66.80% MNG_Late_Med + 33.20% Sarmatian_RUS_Caspian_steppe
    0.01993108	78.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 22.00% IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic
    0.02000175	63.00% KAZ_Turk + 37.00% MNG_Ulaanzukh_LBA_2
    0.02001120	51.00% MNG_Late_Med + 49.00% TUR_Ottoman
    0.02005956	45.20% KAZ_Nomad_HP + 54.80% KAZ_Turk
    0.02011327	68.00% MNG_Late_Med + 32.00% Sarmatian_RUS_Caucasus
    0.02011450	63.80% KAZ_Turk + 36.20% MNG_East_N
    0.02012934	79.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 20.60% RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya
    0.02019016	78.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 21.20% Levant_Megiddo_MLBA_o1
    0.02020363	79.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 20.80% Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan
    0.02033750	58.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 41.80% KAZ_Turk
    0.02046316	72.40% KAZ_Kipchak + 27.60% RUS_Yankovsky_IA
    0.02048324	67.40% MNG_Late_Med + 32.60% Sarmatian_KAZ
    0.02051861	67.00% MNG_Late_Med + 33.00% Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o1
    There are some indicators from a historical point of view to make me believe that the genetic drift of Anatolian Turks from MA2196-like form to modern-day form has concluded after the 1700s. At one point in 300 years ago, Anatolian Turks were Turkic as much as Kazakh confederation although the migration started in the early 1000s. Eventually, there seem to be some Kazakhs who are Turkic as much as today's Anatolian Turks, still. Who would have thought?

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    Just common genetic drift, the Turkic romance is exaggerate for propaganda, maybe something is there but not as power as you think

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    • DA89 once more proved to be a decent candidate for Oghuz
    • Ironically, the pre-Mongol average of the Kazakh profile represented closest to Ottoman MA2195, which makes me think that MA2195 was a refugee from a later migration wave triggered by the Mongol invasion of Khwarezm that caused Turks and possibly the Iranic speakers from the region to influx Anatolia.


    The plots with the "subtracted" name represent the amount of Mongol admixture removed from modern Kazakhs to create a ghost coordinate.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Turk_Medieval: Gokturk DA89, Karluk, Kimak, Kipchak DA23, Kirgiz DA86.
    Mongol_Medieval: I13176 and all other LM samples.




    Code:
    Distance to:	Kazakh
    0.01581083	60.00% MNG_Late_Med + 40.00% RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian
    0.01657276	33.60% KAZ_Kangju + 66.40% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01659217	60.00% KAZ_Kipchak + 40.00% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01730870	21.80% ARM_MBA + 78.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01785308	29.00% IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA + 71.00% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01786186	70.00% MNG_Late_Med + 30.00% Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o
    0.01786507	51.20% KAZ_Turk + 48.80% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01792495	62.20% MNG_Mongol + 37.80% RUS_Nomad_MA
    0.01797143	64.80% KAZ_Turk + 35.20% RUS_Amur_IA
    0.01800692	30.60% KAZ_Katon_Karagay_LBA + 69.40% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01810822	39.20% MDA_Cimmerian + 60.80% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01815124	66.80% MNG_Late_Med + 33.20% Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o2
    0.01837487	62.20% KAZ_Turk + 37.80% MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave
    0.01845440	49.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 51.00% KAZ_Kipchak
    0.01856670	48.00% KAZ_Turk + 52.00% KGZ_Nomad_MA
    0.01861255	21.80% ARM_LBA + 78.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01864869	49.20% MNG_Late_Med + 50.80% RUS_Nomad_MA
    0.01866048	60.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 40.00% TUR_Ottoman
    0.01871880	53.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 46.20% MNG_Early_Med_Uigur
    0.01877114	77.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 22.60% RUS_Alan_MA
    0.01882057	36.20% KAZ_Wusun + 63.80% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01883711	78.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 21.40% RUS_Maykop
    0.01902194	21.40% ARM_Areni_C + 78.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01903656	47.00% KAZ_Kipchak + 53.00% MNG_Mongol
    0.01904052	22.20% ARM_Lchashen_MBA + 77.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.01913961	66.60% MNG_Late_Med + 33.40% Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    0.01914439	57.00% KAZ_Turk + 43.00% MNG_Xianbei_IA
    0.01925448	31.40% HUN_Prescythian_IA + 68.60% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01926804	43.40% KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian + 56.60% KAZ_Turk
    0.01934201	51.80% KAZ_Turk + 48.20% RUS_Late_Xiongnu
    0.01950924	77.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 22.80% UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
    0.01961079	69.20% MNG_Late_Med + 30.80% Scythian_UKR
    0.01966605	33.00% KAZ_Turk_o + 67.00% MNG_Late_Med
    0.01978434	74.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 25.60% TUR_IA
    0.01979970	71.20% MNG_Late_Med + 28.80% Yamnaya_BGR
    0.01984781	79.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 21.00% RUS_Maykop_Late
    0.01989544	66.80% MNG_Late_Med + 33.20% Sarmatian_RUS_Caspian_steppe
    0.01993108	78.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 22.00% IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic
    0.02000175	63.00% KAZ_Turk + 37.00% MNG_Ulaanzukh_LBA_2
    0.02001120	51.00% MNG_Late_Med + 49.00% TUR_Ottoman
    0.02005956	45.20% KAZ_Nomad_HP + 54.80% KAZ_Turk
    0.02011327	68.00% MNG_Late_Med + 32.00% Sarmatian_RUS_Caucasus
    0.02011450	63.80% KAZ_Turk + 36.20% MNG_East_N
    0.02012934	79.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 20.60% RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya
    0.02019016	78.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 21.20% Levant_Megiddo_MLBA_o1
    0.02020363	79.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 20.80% Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan
    0.02033750	58.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_o + 41.80% KAZ_Turk
    0.02046316	72.40% KAZ_Kipchak + 27.60% RUS_Yankovsky_IA
    0.02048324	67.40% MNG_Late_Med + 32.60% Sarmatian_KAZ
    0.02051861	67.00% MNG_Late_Med + 33.00% Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o1
    Can you explain what these results mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    Can you explain what these results mean?
    Kazakhs are around 40% Mongol, 60% Turkic on average. Turkic admixture of Kazakhs in the same line as Karluk and Karakhanid on average, despite supposedly covering almost all Turkic groups in an individual level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Kazakhs are around 40% Mongol, 60% Turkic on average. Turkic admixture of Kazakhs in the same line as Karluk and Karakhanid on average, despite supposedly covering almost all Turkic groups in an individual level.
    So 40% admixture came from Medieval Mongol conquerers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Kazakhs are around 40% Mongol, 60% Turkic on average. Turkic admixture of Kazakhs in the same line as Karluk and Karakhanid on average, despite supposedly covering almost all Turkic groups in an individual level.
    Interesting... How much Mongol % do Tuvans have?

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    In terms of their Y-DNA distribution, Kazakhs are very similar to Mongols. In the heatmaps below, the closest neighbor of Kazakhs are Mongols based on Y-DNA but Uzbeks based on mtDNA. Kazakhs have less mtDNA C than Mongols but more mtDNA H.



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