HUN, HUNGARUS, MAGYAR - Identitásunk több ezer éve

[ixulescu]

Are you retarded? Croats aren't Hungarians, thank God, but they are closer to them than Slovaks are. You got it wrong, retard.
Admit you're dumb and know nothing about genetics.

Slovaks are closest to Czechs, so it's not lack of German that separates them from Hungarians (despite they have less obviously), it's the fact they have lot less south Euro and lot more Slavic.

A difference (of differences) of 2 from Hungarian average between Slovak and Croat means absolutely nothing, there are counties within Hungary with similar differences - you're so fucking dumb.

Once you adjust for German admixture, Slovaks come on top.

[ixulescu]

Why is it cherrypicked? These regional avarages are created by dunai, he collected 400 hungarian samples. I don't think there was any cherrypicking. And why would Dunai or other Hungarian want to show they are close to Croats?

I had enough conversations with Dunai to know very well that he'll go well beyond cherry picking (to willfully lying, that is) to prove his point.

Besides, 400 samples is still very little, even for country average. Once you split them by county, it's obvious there're not enough samples for county averages. For small distances (<5) a different sampling will completely redo the ranking.

[Dunai]

I had enough conversations with Dunai to know very well that he'll go well beyond cherry picking (to willfully lying, that is) to prove his point.

Besides, 400 samples is still very little, even for country average. Once you split them by county, it's obvious there're not enough samples for county averages. For small distances (<5) a different sampling will completely redo the ranking.

I never seen you show even a minimum amount of knowledge or understanding how genetic averages are being complied and calculated for the Vahaduo calculator. Regarding Hungarian averages when it was compiled out of a few dozens and now out of several hundreds, the difference between the two averages is barely noticeable. Meaning even when you have 50, 500 or 5000 samples, the averages will pretty much fall within the same coordinates. Because the people are mostly the same in every country and even when you pick out random people who fit the ethnic criteria, the average always evens out. Completely laughable that you didn't know such an easy point. As I said, I have to yet see any positive contribution on this topic from you, only whining and complaining from the sidelines.

[Jana]

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Just fuck off idiot. You've been embarassed and proven wrong for hundreth time on this forum. And no, once German admixture is removed Slovaks don't come on top. It's just a fantasy from your subhuman brain.
Have some dignity and learn about autosomal DNA before further embarassing yourself.

[Dick]

Why you so salty bro?

Too much sodium in his diet?

[Rares]

It doesn’t make much sense tho, why would Hungarians be closer to Croats than Slovaks? Croats pretty much had their own state all along that was in a personal union with Hungary and as a result, Hungarian communities in nowaday Croatia are tiny. Slovaks however have been a part of what is Hungary for many centuries with no degree of political separation from them, so it is only natural that mixing ocurred for a longer time.


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[Jana]

It doesn’t make much sense tho, why would Hungarians be closer to Croats than Slovaks? Croats pretty much had their own state all along that was in a personal union with Hungary and as a result, Hungarian communities in nowaday Croatia are tiny. Slovaks however have been a part of what is Hungary for many centuries with no degree of political separation from them, so it is only natural that mixing ocurred for a longer time.

It does make sense. Presence of Romans and Illyrians was well documented in Panonnia, but further north their relevance was much smaller.
It has nothing to do with mixing as Hungarian conquerors were total minority in Carpathian Basin, it has to do with fact Panonnia and Dalmatia were closely connected Roman provinces (later merged into Illyricum), while Slovakia was never Roman land. Hungarians have visibly more southern European like admixture than Slovaks do, and that has nothing to do with Croats but with pre-barbarian Panonnian natives.

Which is why Slovenians are genetically closest people to Hungarians overall, and Slovenians (exc. in tiny region Prekmurje) were never part of Kingdom of Hungary.

[Universe]

It doesn’t make much sense tho, why would Hungarians be closer to Croats than Slovaks? Croats pretty much had their own state all along that was in a personal union with Hungary and as a result, Hungarian communities in nowaday Croatia are tiny. Slovaks however have been a part of what is Hungary for many centuries with no degree of political separation from them, so it is only natural that mixing ocurred for a longer time.


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Hungarians are genetically similar to their neighbors in general (but at the same time also different), it's not like there's a huuuge differences between our genetic distance to Croats and Slovaks, Hungarians are just a bit closer to Croats than to Slovaks. When Hungarians conquered Pannonian Basin some parts of the new country could have had South slavic population which later got assimilated.
Btw Slovaks also have some post Hungarian conquest Czech/Moravian, Polish and Rusyn admixture (there was immigration to northern Hungary from those places)

[Rares]

Hungarians are genetically similar to their neighbors in general (but at the same time also different), it's not like there's a huuuge differences between our genetic distance to Croats and Slovaks, Hungarians are just a bit closer to Croats than to Slovaks. When Hungarians conquered Pannonian Basin some parts of the new country could have had South slavic population which later got assimilated.
Btw Slovaks also have some post Hungarian conquest Czech/Moravian, Polish and Rusyn admixture (there was immigration to northern Hungary from those places)

As a half Hungarian myself, it was interesting to find out


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[Voidspawn]

Stay in your europe pls steppes are not for europeans

So what about ukrainians, romanians and moldovans who live in the eurasian steppe?