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    Default Were Neanderthals inferior?

    If they weren't, why did they disappear just like that?
    What baffles me is they had been in Europe far longer than we have. There are Neandearthal fossils in Europe as old as 400,000 years old, so that means they had to be well adapted to the new European environment, cold climate etc. They had larger brains too. Were they simply outnumbered by Homo Sapiens?
    We (homo sapiens) left africa only 40,000 to 50,000 years ago so to me it's surprising Homo Sapiens could become so much more successful in Eurasia despite being newcomers.

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    They were superior physically but Cro-Magnon man was smarter.

    The reason they disappeared is they could not adapt to the rapidly changing world around them. Some people today should really take notes from their story, since they are making the same mistake.

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    Not even historians and scientifics know exactly the reason why they became extinct; so probably could be a lot/many factors (with a bit of bad luck) that they are gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    The reason they disappeared is they could not adapt to the rapidly changing world around them.
    How could they adapt to the environment worse than Homo Sapiens, when Homo sapiens were literally newcomers, straight out of Africa, who weren't adapted to Eurasian environment at all? Neandearthals lived in Eurasia for hundreds of thousands of years, that implies many many generations of selective breeding and selection for specific traits. They had to be well adapted to the Eurasian environment.
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    What exactly caused the rapid Neanderthal demise has remained elusive for a long time. This new computer modeling approach identifies competitive exclusion as the likely reason for the disappearance of our cousins. “Neanderthals lived in Eurasia for the last 300,000 years and experienced and adapted to abrupt climate shifts, that were even more dramatic than those that occurred during the time of Neanderthal disappearance. It is not a coincidence that Neanderthals vanished just at the time, when Homo sapiensstarted to spread into Europe” says Timmermann.
    https://ibsclimate.org/research-news...al-extinction/

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    ^ I didn't mean that in the environmental sense.

    I mean socially. At one point they were just chilling having Europe all to themselves and all of a sudden niggas started coming in from all directions. They could not deal with that, and with the new form of warfare early Homo-Sapien probably brought with them.

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    It was previously believed that the huge success of the homo sapiens could be explained by a cognitive revolution somewhere around 70kya that made them the only species of the genus homo capable of articulate speech. Primates in general are capable of basic vocal communication - monkeys for example can vocalize to alert others to the presence of an eagle or a leopard -, but humans are the only ones able to use vocal sounds to gossip about others, or give the precise location of predators. Since then many specialists have argued that Neanderthals were also capable of articulate speech based on the finding of a specimen from Israel with a human-looking hyoid bone, or the presence of certain genes associated with complex orofacial movements. Neanderthals made complex tools which at least indicates that they were far more intelligent than other Great Apes, and some even argued that making these tools would be impossible without human-like communication. More recently, it was found that Neanderthals were highly inbred and that this suffices to explain their extinction. Neanderthals were surely far more adapted to the Eurasian environment, were used to killing woolly mammoths for hundreds of thousands of years when the sapiens first left Africa, and made tools at least as complex as ours. They had the upper hand in the Eurasian environment, but the inbreeding combined with the pressures of the newcomers drove them gradually to extinction.

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    Homo Sapiens were much more aggressive and ruthless. Doesnt have anything to do with Neanderthals being inferior. It`s sad because chances are high that the latter wouldnt have destroyed the world as we have. Also in a fair fight man against man Neanderthals would have absolutely wrecked modern humans.

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    Yup they were outnumbered. We have only 3% Neanderthal DNA, which explains a lot.

    I find the Neanderthal-insults by African Americans extremely funny.

    KNOOCK HIS NEANDTHERAL-ASS

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    They would be still here if they weren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rędwald View Post
    They would be still here if they weren't.
    Exactly, Homo- Sapiens were more proficient hunters and gatherers – thanks to better technology and superior social skills – so we multiplied and spread. So we either outcompeted neanderthals or outright genocided them which makes them de facto inferior.

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