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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Genetically brothers should have the same results.
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    No, I don't. DNA Land shows Guijarati only in my brother. My father and my mother don't have Guajarati too (according to DNA Land). Now I learned that I can run it deeper and break down into more ethnic components (Where?Gedmatch?). I and my brother belong 4 Euro countries. I think it showed as excess in my brother because he inheired more from groups were it isn't usual and it clearly show as excess. My father belong 3 Euro countries (Western) and my mother 3 too (Eastern). So maybe DNA land's algoritm was unable too break it properly. I posted it just by curiosity and because the author of the original post has got nonsense answers. But I learnt a lot here and I became more curious about me now. Very interesting. I guess his Guajarati in from is Turkish side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafael Passoni View Post
    No, I don't. DNA Land shows Guijarati only in my brother. My father and my mother don't have Guajarati too (according to DNA Land). Now I learned that I can run it deeper and break down into more ethnic components (Where?Gedmatch?). I and my brother belong 4 Euro countries. I think it showed as excess in my brother because he inheired more from groups were it isn't usual and it clearly show as excess. My father belong 3 Euro countries (Western) and my mother 3 too (Eastern). So maybe DNA land's algoritm was unable too break it properly. I posted it just by curiosity and because the author of the original post has got nonsense answers. But I learnt a lot here and I became more curious about me now. Very interesting. I guess his Guajarati in from is Turkish side.
    Possibly not from the eastern part, do you have portuguese ancestry and if so how far back?

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    I can trace my ancestry until 1800 after I talked with my relatives in France, Italy and Spain, except my Turco-French great-grandpa (I know very little about him). So I'm talking to my mother's DNA matches on MyHeritage's and colecting information yet and some of them replied my messages. But my mother didn't score Turkish, Syrian, Lebanese or Armenian on MyHeritage (the 'Turks'), so I started to search a reasoning explanation. However, she has 65 French DNA matches and some of them are strong matches (around 49 centimorgans), and her French 3rd cousins have a French surname that can be found near my great-grandma's house, which suggests my great-grandpa really was a Turco-French. So, according to my family tree I don't have Portuguese ancestors, but I have Spanish ancestors from Guazamara and Catalonia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafael Passoni View Post
    I can trace my ancestry until 1800 after I talked with my relatives in France, Italy and Spain, except my Turco-French great-grandpa (I know very little about him). So I'm talking to my mother's DNA matches on MyHeritage's and colecting information yet and some of them replied my messages. But my mother didn't score Turkish, Syrian, Lebanese or Armenian on MyHeritage (the 'Turks'), so I started to search a reasoning explanation. However, she has 65 French DNA matches and some of them are strong matches (around 49 centimorgans), and her French 3rd cousins have a French surname that can be found near my great-grandma's house, which suggests my great-grandpa really was a Turco-French. So, according to my family tree I don't have Portuguese ancestors, but I have Spanish ancestors from Guazamara and Catalonia.
    Ok, I asked because if you had Portuguese ancestry, especially colonial, that gujarati input could be related to it. Portugal held possessions in that region (Diu) until the 20th century and it is established that mixed Portuguese-Indian ( mainly goan/goese) settlers also colonized Brazil...as well as the East Fri and provinces later on (Mozambique), where there's still a significant population of Indian ancestry.

    In your family case the Ottoman branch might explain it.

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    Interesting. I thought possibly my brother has got some Romani blood or Ashkenazi/ Sephardic Jew blood as my father has got it, or it's just noise, but I think noise is a number below 1%. I'll analise my family raw data on GedMatch and look if South Asian and South Central Asian scores in Eurogenes K36 are zero or no. I want to know how to run it deeper and break down into more ethnic components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilcar View Post
    Exactly the same way many north africans don't score any ssa on these tests because it's already included in their north african samples.
    Do you have also some Iberian include in your NA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Do you have also some Iberian include in your NA?
    I think their NA samples are mozabites so the iberian admixture is small, therefore the iberian score tend to appear for coastal north africans

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