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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    +/-. Rosbust body, squere face, black skin (and eyes!), caucasoid features.
    Look at Melanesians or dark Polinesians. They look often very caucasian, similarly like Veddoids and Dravidians, but are big, robust.
    I and C folk were something similar, but original C folk was probably more australolid, like C-brothers in Asia.

    Original WHG has no blue eyes. Blue eyes appeard at the very end of their separate existance and with EHG (i.e. indoeuropean) admix.
    Blue eyes did not come from Indian-Europeans for the 10,000 time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Blue eyes did not come from Indian-Europeans for the 10,000 time.

    Rethel is a pan Indo European supermscist
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    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

    you are true r1b
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    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
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    Basal R and Q are too old to be directly associated with any linguistic group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Blue eyes did not come from Indian-Europeans
    I know, that you used to only brainlessly repeat what some unknown people, whom you did not even see, said, and logic is foreign to you, but I will try also this time:

    You have people, who live through many years (according to your insane belive some 38,000 years) who has no blue eyes, and no EHG admix.
    Then you have people at the very end of existance (acc. to your idols last 1000-3000 years) who have blue eyes and have EHG admix.
    And you know, that EHG people have blue eyes, which they spread around the world.

    What is logical conclusion, hmmm?

    for the 10,000 time.
    So many times your idols changed the theory and time, when and where the blue eyes emerged.


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    Rethel is a pan Indo European supermscist
    What is supremacist in what I have said?

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    You just discredit yourself further and further with this Bible talk.

    Records of early human existence have been found as old as 2 million years and this man over here still thinking the world was created in 7 days 5000 years ago cause some book written by some stoner on hashish told him so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    You just discredit yourself further and further with this Bible talk.
    I didn't even mention her, but if you are bothered, it means, you are guilty and you know it.

    Maybe you didn't understand, but I was talking about something totaly else, and then, you used a different topic, to pretend, that you being wrong is not an issue.

    Records of early human existence have been found as old as 2 million years
    Where did you found it and how did you count the age?

    and this man over here still thinking the world was created in 7 days 5000 years ago cause some book written by some stoner on hashish told him so.
    Yes, because this book is proven to be right, and more than that, even if would be not, then evolutionism is proven to be wrong anyway. Even atheists see the insanity of this cult, and do not belive in that. But you of course are not aware of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illyrius View Post
    So i saw this ancient paleolithic human skulls thread and it got me wondering about something.
    What exactly caused this once major haplogroup's extinction in Europe. Why did it thrive in central and east asia but perished in the west?
    Does anyone have any theories or conclusions about it?

    I'm really curious right now I'd love to learn more about this odd haplogroup.
    The expansion of I2 in the middle/late neolithic.
    Early neoltihic European farmers still had sigificant C.

    https://indo-european.eu/ancient-dna/

    check out the neoltihic samples from Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Mixing. It was mixed out of existence or they all died.

    Due to their lifestyle native Hunter-Gatheres were a very small population in comparison to Farmers who could sustain a much larger population and also ANE Indo-Europeans who herded animals.

    Kinda how Native Americans are almost completely dissapeared today, the scenario may have been very similar.
    yea we don't know how many C people there actually were. Haplgroup I was a tiny fraction before they mixed with Farmers and Herders. If farmers and Herders never arrived I would most likely have gone extinct too at least in western Europe which was much harsher that the Balkans. 90+% of the I2 lineages came out of the Balkans and Southern Europe during the Neolithic and repopulated Europe. People think that there were these massive groups of HG's but they were unimaginably small groups in North and West Europe. In places like Britain they were founded by 1-10 people who survived extinction events.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Also it seems that the Berbers have the highest density of C-V20 so it's likely they moved south in the west as if I remember right, C-v20 was found mostly in Spain
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    You have people, who live through many years (according to your insane belive some 38,000 years) who has no blue eyes, and no EHG admix.
    Then you have people at the very end of existance (acc. to your idols last 1000-3000 years) who have blue eyes and have EHG admix.
    And you know, that EHG people have blue eyes, which they spread around the world.
    Where exactly are these EHG-admixed blue eyed WHG? Both La Brana and Loschbour were identified as the earliest carriers of HERC2 light eyes and they are both 100% WHG.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...XwUsAA/pubhtml



    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    What is logical conclusion, hmmm?
    The logical conclusion is you know nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    If farmers and Herders never arrived I would most likely have gone extinct too at least in western Europe
    Yea, and if Steppe people would slay one or two villages more, there would be no I1, and no so called "balkan I2".

    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Where exactly are these EHG-admixed blue eyed WHG?
    All known late WHG are.

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