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    Default Independence Day

    It's been 103 years since declaring Estonian Declaration of Independence.

    Happy Independence Day Estonia / Head iseseisvuspäeva Eesti





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    What the heck, I didn't even know that Estonia had the same national anthem as Finland.

    The Estonian language is more compact than standard Finnish because it has shorter case endings, like Southwestern Finnish dialects. However it has even more monosyllabic words than Southwestern Finnish, because the vowel at the end of words has been removed in the nominative case.

    For example the first verse of the Estonian national anthem has 44 syllables (if I counted correctly):

    Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm,
    kui kaunis oled sa!
    Ei leia mina iial teal
    see suure, laia ilma peal,
    mis mul nii armas oleks ka,
    kui sa, mu isamaa!

    Its translation to Standard Finnish at Wikipedia has 55 syllables (or 25% more):

    Isänmaani, onneni ja riemuni,
    miten kaunis oletkaan!
    En koskaan löydä täältä,
    tämän suuren, laajan maailman päältä,
    mikä minulle niin rakasta olisi,
    kuin sinä, isänmaani!

    A translation of the Standard Finnish version to southwestern Finnish dialect has 46 syllables (or only about 5% more):

    Mun‿isäämmaa, mun‿onni ja riamu,
    kuin kaunis sää ookkaan!
    Mää e‿löyrä‿koskaan täält,
    tän‿isoo‿laaja‿maailmam päält,
    mikää mul‿ois nii‿rakaast,
    kun sää, mun‿isäämmaa!

    "‿" indicates a sandhi phenomenon where there is a geminated consonant at the word boundary.

    One feature in Standard Finnish that sounds artificial is that possession is indicated by possessive suffixes instead of prepositions. For example "my fatherland" is "isänmaani", where "-ni" is a first person possessive suffix. In Southwestern Finnish dialects and colloquial Finnish, we say "mun isänmaa" instead, which is similar to the Estonian "mu isamaa". "Mun"/"mu" is a possessive preposition like "my" in English.

    The lyrics of the Estonian national anthem have 319 alphabetical letters, but the Finnish translation at Wikipedia has 384 letters:

    001 muisamaamuõnnjarõõmkuikaunisoledsaeileiaminaiialte
    051 alseesuurelaiailmapealmismulniiarmasolekskakuisamu
    101 isamaasaoledmindjusünnitandjaüleskasvatandsindtäna
    151 nminaalatijajäänsulltruuikssurmanimulkõigearmsamol
    201 edsamukallisisamaasuülejumalvalvakumuarmasisamaata
    251 olgusinukaitsejajavõtkurohkestõnnistamisiialettevõ
    301 tadsamukallisisamaa

    001 isänmaanionnenijariemunimitenkaunisoletkaanenkoska
    051 anlöydätäältätämänsuurenlaajanmaailmanpäältämikämi
    101 nulleniinrakastaolisikuinsinäisänmaaniolethanminut
    151 synnyttänytjaaikuiseksikasvattanutsinuakiitänainaj
    201 apysynsinulleuskollisenakuolemaansaakkaminullerakk
    251 ainoletsinärakasisänmaanisinuajumalasuojelkoonraka
    301 sisänmaaniolkoonhänpuolustajasijasuurestisiunatkoo
    351 nmihinikinäryhdytkinrakasisänmaani

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    The Komi flag has a similar concept (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Komi_Republic):

    The flag represents Komi's natural wealth. The blue represents the splendour and spaciousness of the northern sky. The green represents nature, its bounty, and the taiga. The white represents the color of snow, the purity of nature in the north, simplicity, and austerity, as well as Komi being a country in the north.


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