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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I've yet to see his Dod K12b...
    Here it is:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 59.37
    2 Siberian 18.29
    3 Atlantic_Med 11.62
    4 Gedrosia 6.72
    5 East_Asian 3.48
    6 South_Asian 0.52

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Chuvashs (Behar) 12.17
    2 Russian (HGDP) 16.31
    3 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 18.06
    4 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 19.01
    5 Finnish (Dodecad) 20.76
    6 Russian (Dodecad) 21.26
    7 Russian_B (Behar) 22.96
    8 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 23.4
    9 Polish (Dodecad) 25.14
    10 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 25.34
    11 Belorussian (Behar) 25.36
    12 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 26.35
    13 Lithuanians (Behar) 27.51
    14 Swedish (Dodecad) 27.84
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 29.88
    16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 29.9
    17 German (Dodecad) 31.28
    18 Dutch (Dodecad) 35.23
    19 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 35.53
    20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 36.79

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 17.5% Yakut (HGDP) @ 5.91
    2 82.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 17.3% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 6.25
    3 83.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 16.5% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 6.38
    4 81.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 18.6% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 6.52
    5 77.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 22.5% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 6.57
    6 76.1% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 23.9% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 6.65
    7 81.2% Finnish (Dodecad) + 18.8% Yakut (HGDP) @ 6.67
    8 79.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 20.6% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 6.72
    9 77% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 23% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.86
    10 81.5% Finnish (Dodecad) + 18.5% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 7.03
    11 82.3% Finnish (Dodecad) + 17.7% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 7.23
    12 80.1% Finnish (Dodecad) + 19.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 7.3
    13 75.4% Finnish (Dodecad) + 24.6% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 7.39
    14 77.9% Finnish (Dodecad) + 22.1% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 7.39
    15 76% Finnish (Dodecad) + 24% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 7.44
    16 74.5% Finnish (Dodecad) + 25.5% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 7.52
    17 80.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 19.3% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 7.73
    18 68.2% Lithuanians (Behar) + 31.8% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 7.85
    19 69.9% Lithuanians (Behar) + 30.1% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 7.86
    20 85.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 14.3% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 7.96

    His PuntDNA K13 Modern in case you are interested:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 63.99
    2 Siberia 17.36
    3 SW_Europe 6.53
    4 West_Asia 3.63
    5 NE_Asia 2.63
    6 Americas 2.25
    7 South_Asia 1.3
    8 South_Africa 0.61
    9 East_Africa 0.53
    10 SW_Asia 0.48
    11 SE_Asia 0.28
    12 Oceania 0.28
    13 West_Africa 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Finnish 14
    2 Chuvash 18.36
    3 Mordovian 18.58
    4 Russian 19.21
    5 Aluet 20.51
    6 Latvian 21.53
    7 Lithuanian 22
    8 Estonian 22.39
    9 Polish 23.64
    10 Tatar 24.43
    11 Belarusian 25.15
    12 Ukrainian 28.97
    13 Swedish 29.71
    14 Norwegian 31.17
    15 German_North 31.83
    16 Slovak 32.59
    17 Slovene 34.27
    18 Utahn_European 34.51
    19 Irish 35.02
    20 Moldavian 35.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.8% Finnish + 20.2% Selkup @ 5.86
    2 86.1% Finnish + 13.9% Koryak @ 6.48
    3 85.3% Finnish + 14.7% Dolgan @ 6.72
    4 86.7% Finnish + 13.3% Yakut @ 6.76
    5 86.5% Finnish + 13.5% Chukchi @ 6.78
    6 88.4% Finnish + 11.6% Nganasan @ 6.98
    7 85% Finnish + 15% Tuvinian @ 7.65
    8 86.9% Finnish + 13.1% Eskimo @ 7.83
    9 83.8% Finnish + 16.2% Altaian @ 8.21
    10 85.7% Finnish + 14.3% Mongolian @ 8.72
    11 87.5% Finnish + 12.5% Oroqen @ 8.89
    12 59.9% Finnish + 40.1% Chuvash @ 9.04
    13 63.5% Finnish + 36.5% Aluet @ 9.25
    14 88.6% Finnish + 11.4% Daur @ 9.77
    15 89.8% Finnish + 10.2% Xibo @ 10.53
    16 85.7% Finnish + 14.3% Afghan_Hazara @ 10.6
    17 72.7% Latvian + 27.3% Selkup @ 11.07
    18 72% Finnish + 28% Tatar @ 11.16
    19 91.5% Finnish + 8.5% Naxi @ 11.61
    20 92.1% Finnish + 7.9% Japanese @ 11.67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    Here is what he look like.
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    Eurogenes K13: He has at least 22% East Eurasian (Siberian+Amerindian) ancestry. I'm not sure is the South Asian that he is scoring genuine or some other type of East Eurasian or West Eurasian ancestry.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 42.9
    2 North_Atlantic 29.64
    3 Siberian 18.55
    4 Amerindian 3.88
    5 South_Asian 3.18
    6 West_Asian 1.64
    7 Oceanian 0.19
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.02

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    PuntDNAL K12 Modern: He has very low Neolithic Farmer compared to most European results it seems. He is approximately 21-22% East Eurasian (Siberian+Beringian+Amerindian+Oceanian). Once again not sure if the minor South Asian he possess is East or West Eurasian. But if it is East Eurasian, he could be up to 23% Mongoloid.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_HG 45.61
    2 Caucasus_HG 17.28
    3 Siberian 14.45
    4 Anatolian_NF 13.37
    5 Beringian 5.19
    6 South_Asian 1.91
    7 Amerindian 1.47
    8 Oceanian 0.7
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    Gedrosia K12: He seems to have much lower EEF than other European results that I saw. Also he is around 20-21% Mongoloid (W_Siberian+E_Siberian+SE Asian+Indo-Tibetan).
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 47.17
    2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 18.11
    3 W_SIBERIAN 10.32
    4 BALOCHI 5.97
    5 E_SIBERIAN 5.69
    6 CAUCASUS 5.05
    7 SE_ASIAN 4.27
    8 S_INDIAN 2.26
    9 INDO_TIBETAN 1.16
    Spoiler!


    MDLP K23b: Not sure if the Ancestral Altaic is hiding some Mongoloid, but he is also approximately 21-22% Mongoloid here.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 45.99
    2 East_Siberian 14.4
    3 Ancestral_Altaic 13.29
    4 Caucasian 12.9
    5 South_Central_Asian 3.34
    6 Tungus-Altaic 2.83
    7 European_Early_Farmers 2.35
    8 Amerindian 1.69
    9 Paleo_Siberian 1.05
    10 Arctic 1.02
    11 South_Indian 0.57
    12 Austronesian 0.25
    13 Australoid 0.18
    14 Archaic_Human 0.13
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    Thoughts? I would like to see his G25 results. I wonder would he be genetically closer to the Saami or Saami_Kola samples. And its fascinating that he doesn't show any Siberian influence in his pheno despite being at least 20% Mongoloid.

    I made a classification thread for him: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...orthern-Europe

    And its fascinating to here several people think he looks Bavarian lol.

    When are you guys going to learn that calculator Siberian is relative Siberian NOT ABSOLUTE Siberian.We can make the same person 0% Siberian or 20% Siberian just by carefully picking the calculator references or components. 23andme and Ancestry dna do it to also

    For example if I wanted to reduce his Siberian I would have add alot of calculator components or references from Finland, Estonia, Norway etc. I mean we do the same thing with W. Asians. We reduce their Siberian or E. Asian by having alot of references from Georgia, Armenia, Arabs etc.

    So I’m not surprised at all. If you want to measure his ABSOLUTE Siberian do FST or IBS between him , a bunch of Europeans and W. Asians vs some Siberian pop and show me how far down the list he ranks. That would better explain someone’s looks.
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    is the siberian/east asian admix in saami far enough back that it predates "classic" mongoloid phenotype ?

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    Just ignore fucking Zoro here, he's a fucking tireless campagner against admixture calculators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    When are you guys going to learn that calculator Siberian is relative Siberian NOT ABSOLUTE Siberian.We can make the same person 0% Siberian or 20% Siberian just by carefully picking the calculator references or components. 23andme and Ancestry dna do it to also

    For example if I wanted to reduce his Siberian I would have add alot of calculator components or references from Finland, Estonia, Norway etc. I mean we do the same thing with W. Asians. We reduce their Siberian or E. Asian by having alot of references from Georgia, Armenia, Arabs etc.

    So I’m not surprised at all. If you want to measure his ABSOLUTE Siberian do FST or IBS between him , a bunch of Europeans and W. Asians vs some Siberian pop and show me how far down the list he ranks. That would better explain someone’s looks.
    Ok. How to do an FST or IBS of his results then?

    Btw can you please unquote his pics in the spoiler please? Plan to delete them later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    Here it is:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 59.37
    2 Siberian 18.29
    3 Atlantic_Med 11.62
    4 Gedrosia 6.72
    5 East_Asian 3.48
    6 South_Asian 0.52
    His South Asian from EU K13 doesn't seem genuine. It's below 1% on Dodecad. Yep, the guy is like 21-22% East Eurasian, quite a lot. Very archaic genetic profile, no apparent Norwegian ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Can you post his Eurogenes K36 Admixture Percentages?
    Here is OP's result:


    Population
    Amerindian 1.93 Pct
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 0.09 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 3.13 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 9.6 Pct
    Fennoscandian 57.12 Pct
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian -
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 2.59 Pct
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 3.03 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian 14.75 Pct
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 0.63 Pct
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 7.12 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med -

    Also his MDLP K16 in case you are interested. Interesting how OP is genetically closer to Uralics than to his fellow Scandinavians (except for Finns).

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NorthEastEuropean 33.43
    2 Steppe 21.18
    3 Siberian 15.52
    4 Neolithic 12.5
    5 Caucasian 8.34
    6 Indian 3.55
    7 Arctic 3.14
    8 Amerindian 1.69
    9 Australian 0.53
    10 Oceanic 0.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Saami (Finnmark) 7
    2 Saami_WGA (Lapland) 8.45
    3 Komi (Komi_Republic) 8.98
    4 Russian (NorthRussia) 9.53
    5 Chuvash (Chuvashia) 10.45
    6 Russian (Pinega) 10.75
    7 Vepsa (Russia) 10.93
    8 Finn (NorthFinland) 11.49
    9 Mari (Mari_El) 11.57
    10 Finn (EastFinland) 11.77
    11 Karelian (Karelia) 11.8
    12 Finn (Kuusamo) 12.32
    13 Udmurd (Udmurtia) 12.48
    14 Finn (SouthFinland) 13.13
    15 Finn (Finland) 13.4
    16 Russian (Russia) 13.85
    17 Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) 14.19
    18 Kryashen (Bashkortostan) 14.28
    19 Ingrians (Ingermanland) 14.45
    20 Russian (Kostroma) 14.57

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.6% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 37.4% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 3.33
    2 63.6% Estonian (Estonia) + 36.4% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 3.96
    3 72.4% Finn (EastFinland) + 27.6% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.12
    4 62.1% Latvian (Latvia) + 37.9% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.23
    5 66.5% Saami (Finnmark) + 33.5% Finn (EastFinland) @ 4.31
    6 66.6% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 33.4% Selkup ((Yamalo_Nenets_okrug)) @ 4.47
    7 75.4% Saami (Finnmark) + 24.6% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 4.49
    8 67.7% Ingrians (Ingermanland) + 32.3% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.5
    9 61% Saami (Finnmark) + 39% Russian (NorthRussia) @ 4.51
    10 77.5% Russian (NorthRussia) + 22.5% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.53
    11 63.6% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 36.4% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.58
    12 76.3% Saami (Finnmark) + 23.7% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) @ 4.6
    13 72.6% Karelian (Karelia) + 27.4% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.67
    14 63.6% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 36.4% Khanty (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.69
    15 74.4% Vepsa (Russia) + 25.6% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 4.69
    16 72.6% Saami (Finnmark) + 27.4% Ingrians (Ingermanland) @ 4.73
    17 76.1% Saami (Finnmark) + 23.9% Estonian (Estonia) @ 4.76
    18 65.6% Saami (Finnmark) + 34.4% Russian (Pinega) @ 4.87
    19 76% Finn (EastFinland) + 24% Selkup ((Yamalo_Nenets_okrug)) @ 4.88
    20 68.7% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 31.3% Ket (Krasnoyarski_Krai) @ 4.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Just ignore fucking Zoro here, he's a fucking tireless campagner against admixture calculators.
    Did you even fucking read what i said you moron ??

    I didn’t say I’m against calculators I said we can make someone 0% or 20% Siberian by carefully picking calculator references and if you want to see how much Absolute Siberian he has do some fucking FST or IBS him/Europeans/W Asians VS Siberians and fucking show me the results. This would explain his caucasian looks better

    Read before opening your trap !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    Did you even fucking read what i said you moron ??

    I didn’t say I’m against calculators I said we can make someone 0% or 20% Siberian by carefully picking calculator references and if you want to see how much Absolute Siberian he has do some fucking FST or IBS him/Europeans/W Asians VS Siberians and fucking show me the results. This would explain his caucasian looks better

    Read before opening your trap !!
    LOL, okay. I don't think Joqool is able to do that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joqool View Post
    Here is OP's result:
    Add Harappa too. It has the Beringian component.

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