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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    This study doesn't say much about how much German ancestry the avarage Czech person has. Based on the Gedmatch results I've seen the avarage Czech is 1/3 German + 2/3 Proto Slav, that's just an avarage though, some individuals will be almost pure slavic and others will score similar to East Germans.

    What this study shows is that German admixture is equally widespread in Czechia and Hungary and after connecting this study to other studies we can conclude the Czechs who do score some NW Euro/German score more of it than the Hungarians who score some.
    The reality is something like this (maybe it will be more understandable this way): 40% of Hungarians score some NW Euro and from that 40% group they scored around 15% on avarage. 40% of Czechs scored some NW Euro too, but this 40% group scored more on avarage, probably something like 30%.

    On k13 the Czech avarage if I remember correctly can be modeled as 2/3 Ukraine_Lviv + 1/3 Germany with low distance.
    German admixture of avarage Hungarian is something like 15%.
    Stearsolina's model from yesterday:
    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Hungarians, but difference is minor, much smaller than people think.

    Distance: 0.0990% / 0.09895873
    Target: Hungarian

    55.9 Slavic
    27.8 Vlach
    15.4 Germanic
    0.9 Turkic
    I haven't seen a model that gives hungarians more than 20% German.
    So Czechs have probably twice as much German admixture as Hungarians, but it is distributed among equal amount of people it looks like (40% in both ethnicities).

    I have hard time explaining it in English, but I hope it's understandable what I meant.
    Last edited by Universe; 02-24-2021 at 05:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    I was browsing through various data that MyHeritage is providing and I found this rather interesting, how much various countries score for regional genetic ethnicities. In this thread I will focus on mostly the eastern part of Europe.
    That's not how much they score, but the percentage of tested people from said country who receive at least 0.1% into one component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    This was more than obvious.
    They aren't, it just people who don't know how to read data. Balkan on MyHeritage means south Slavic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    I haven't seen a model that gives hungarians more than 20% German.
    Target: Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    Distance: 0.1059% / 0.10589424

    50.4 Slavic
    25.3 Vlach
    22.3 Germanic
    2.0 Turkic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Target: Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    Distance: 0.1059% / 0.10589424

    50.4 Slavic
    25.3 Vlach
    22.3 Germanic
    2.0 Turkic
    i meant hung. avarage not a region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    That's not how much they score, but the percentage of tested people from said country who receive at least 0.1% into one component.
    Yes

    i just didnt have a way with words

    my explanation was a bit too complicated

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    Balkan category = around 1/2 Slavic and 1/2 Paleo Balkan. Also, as Universe mentioned, these numbers are not average % of NW/Balkan/Greek&Italian, etc. admixture in certain populations, just how many individuals got some percentage for that particular category (it can vary from 0.1% to 100%). Not to mention how MH categories are still horse shit (despite the fact that last ethnicity update was quite good, but they still have to improve their ethnicity groups).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    That's not how much they score, but the percentage of tested people from said country who receive at least 0.1% into one component.
    To be fair I think he didn't mean that, but others misinterpreted the data and jumped into false conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator98 View Post
    Balkan category = around 1/2 Slavic and 1/2 Paleo Balkan. Also, as Universe mentioned, these numbers are not average % of NW/Balkan/Greek&Italian, etc. admixture in certain populations, just how many individuals got some percentage for that particular category (it can vary from 0.1% to 100%). Not to mention how MH categories are still horse shit (despite the fact that last ethnicity update was quite good, but they still have to improve their ethnicity groups).
    Not really, the Paleo-Balkan component is Greek & South Italian, as strange as that sounds. It's not uncommon to find Ukrainians and Poles scoring over 50% Balkan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator98 View Post
    Balkan category = around 1/2 Slavic and 1/2 Paleo Balkan. Also, as Universe mentioned, these numbers are not average % of NW/Balkan/Greek&Italian, etc. admixture in certain populations, just how many individuals got some percentage for that particular category (it can vary from 0.1% to 100%). Not to mention how MH categories are still horse shit (despite the fact that last ethnicity update was quite good, but they still have to improve their ethnicity groups).
    Yup, a very good additional point to keep in mind.

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